I'm not happy with this development, but I'm slightly amused by the irony being that lemmy.ml is pro-china and has been moderated as such.
this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2023
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Hexbear might as well be the CCP propaganda wing, this development is fucking hilarious
I don't understand why the pro China tanked subs would get banned but not the rest.
Even China is embarrassed. You ever had someone defend you but really poorly? Ya.
This is exactly it.
I'm moving to China for work, so I'm interested in alternative points of view on Chinese society from the usual U.S. mainstream media CCP hate boner. I checked out hexbear, and... my goodness.
They cheer for a version of China that the Chinese themselves would be embarrassed by. It's clearly driven by 14-year-old white boy edgelords who are enamored with a hardcore Marxist-Leninist vision of China that never existed, most likely in reaction to a dislike of modern Western capitalism. I mean, they referenced "struggle sessions" with nostalgia and cheer for Bashar al-Assad because China is being friendly to him.
Real-life China is quite different from the depictions you see on main Lemmy instances, but it sure as hell isn't anything like what the tankies are jerking off to, either.
It feels like most Western CCP cheerleaders are basically cheering on a pre-Deng version of the CCP and haven't quite noticed that the CCP of today would totally purge anyone pushing the pre-Deng/pre-1978 views of the CCP.
"China" isn't "embarrassed" by lemmy.ml or hexbear.net. "China" just shuts down access to non-Chinese social media sites as they are discovered. Any social media site that isn't currently blocked in China is on numbered days until they are blocked, whether "pro-China" or "anti-China".
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They might spread western ideas of communism in China. That’s not something China can allow.
Right? I and others were also banned from talking about China and Uyghurs on world news on lemmy.ml
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The great misunderstanding of hard left leaning western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.
Just like their hard right leaning counterparts they’re stuck in a mindset from the first half of the past century.
They don't really believe Russia is socialist to any degree, they just support it because it (supposedly) opposes the western hegemony, USA/NATO, etc.
Basically the same logic as that of pro-Russian right-wingers.
I had a bunch of hexbear and ml's tell me russian war crimes in Berlin were "Nazi myths". Apparently the Nazis had more influence over the world of historical academia after they lost than Russia.
Also other allied war crimes did happen and weren't Nazi myths.
Supporters of autocratic state capitalist regimes like China and Russia also aren't left-leaning.
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I think I'm confused. I haven't seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It's right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I've never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I've seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.
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This is too funny. What a great post to wake up to lmfao.
China*
Please stop saying "mainland China". It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
Please stop saying “mainland China”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
It means without Hong Kong.
Mainland China refers to China sans Hong Kong and Macao, yes. Because you have to distinguish and "Mainland China" is a whole lot less typing than "China but without Hong Kong and, oh yeah, Macao too".
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The official name of Taiwan's government is Republic of China, and it's the continuation of the government that controlled all of China before Mao's uprising.
So I'm not sure your argument makes sense. They claim to be the legitimate Chinese government in their own name.
Outside of that very specific context, China == PRC. I understand the history of Taiwan very well, and it's important for people to understand that they are two different countries.
Yeah, in colloquial usage, most people understand that China and Taiwan are two different countries and there's no confusion over which one is which.
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lmfao the Xinny the pooh boot suckers are banned from their favourite dictatorship?
Leopards ate tankies' faces!
Not lemmygrad though, how odd
Lemmygrad hasn't been spotted yet. When it is spotted, it will be blocked as well, like literally every social media site that reaches the authoritarians' awareness.
I tested two services that supposedly allow you to check if a site is blocked in China. I don't know with certainty how accurate these tools are in general, but I can say they gave me consistent results for lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, and lemmy.ca. Hexbear and lemmy.ml register as blocked, while other instances go through.
https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/
Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca, lemmy.world
https://www.vpnmentor.com/tools/test-the-great-china-firewall/
Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca. Lemmy.world could not be parsed using this tool, perhaps due to not being set to work with that TLD.
Critical support for the comrades in China for having to put up with those instances for so long.
That's fucking hilarious, if true.
"Papa China is just gonna go buy some milk, lemmy.ml, you're in charge, don't let hexbear use the stove or any knives while I'm out!"
[disappears forever]
Ironic.
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LMAO that's hilarious
Heh. Ironic.
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