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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 182 points 1 week ago (17 children)

This is incredibly reductive and makes us look like idiots who don't understand "intent".

I get it, fuck cars, but this is ridiculous and only serves to make us look like a joke

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Oops, my foot slipped on the wrong pedal."

Intent without confessions and manifestos may not be that easy to prove.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

They're not comparable.

If I'm at a firing range, where it is expected that people are carrying guns and ammunition, I can pull the same "oops, my finger slipped" excuse.

Similarly, if I drive my car around the side of your house and into your back yard to run you over, I can't claim "my foot slipped".

Seriously, stop with the mental gymnastics. We don't need to reach for more reasons to say "fuck cars." There are plenty within arms reach

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, we shouldn't build our cities around hundreds miles of firing ranges then, right?

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

See, THAT is a reasonable, thoughtful argument. Yes, the density of cars in our cities is dangerous.

But there is not some epidemic of vehicular murders going unpunished.

Rather, we have normalized living in a high risk environment. And THAT is the crux of the problem. Not law enforcement

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[–] Aurix@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Murder is with the intention to kill. This would apply for using a car as a weapon as well and courts do go after these cases in practice, of sniping a target with a car.

But they are too lenient on deathly accidents with gross negligence.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This would apply for using a car as a weapon as well and courts do go after these cases in practice, of sniping a target with a car.

Unless the driver admitted to wanting to kill someone on purpose with their car, the grey area between "I didn't see them" to "I don't know what happened." makes it so that drivers are often only given a citation for a traffic violation (i.e. not stopping at a stop sign), if the victim is lucky enough for that level of "justice".

It's very rare to see a driver be convicted of anything beyond vehicular manslaughter, including when you have a history of driving offences, and run off like a coward after running over a cyclist.

edit: grammar

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[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plot twist, the person killed is a protester.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

do that next year, and you'll get a medal and a cabinet post.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My friend's mom got run over recently. The guy had the alcohol percentage that indicated he'd don't at least ten shots of hard liquor in an hour and he was going well over the speed limit. He got her so hard it crumpled the front of his truck.

But in Cali, since it's a first time offence, he's getting like, a thousand dollar fine. The cremation is going to cost more.

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[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 35 points 1 week ago

Innocent until proven guilty.

Luigi didn't kill that CEO as far as we know, and titles like this don't help an innocent man.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

And if you setup a system were people die preventable, unnecessary deaths the cops will work for you.

[–] Noobnarski@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, luigi should have used a car instead?

Got it.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

True for Germany, too. The killers sometimes even get to keep their drivers licenses.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

... with judges explaining their non-judgements with some totally rediculous arguments like: he has already suffered the worst... having to live with the fact he klilled someone, so there's no reason for further punshment.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But there was a case where someone was convicted for murder because he was involved in an illegal car race and should have known better. Yes, illegal car races are a thing in Germany

Edit: This isn't the case I had in mind. I remember vague that the victim was an (elderly) man

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Might be worth mentioning that "illegal car race" does not (necessarily) mean fast and the furious style street racing.

According to § 315d StGB (the German penal code), driving recklessly and violating traffic laws with the intention of reaching the highest speed does constitute an illegal race.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It could be hard to explain why he had to drive it up on the sidewalk and squeeze between the curb-parked cars and the building on accident. And also why it was covered in silencers.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You don't need silencers, just a prius or similar.

Actually a tesla could be good for this: just need to figure out a way to trick the self driving into thinking the sidewalk is a car lane, and the CEO is a small child. /s

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why did you add /s, that would work

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[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Works for the Walton family. You know, for those nights of heavy drinking, where you just wanna bounce some peasants off your grill.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And if you kill a CEO is terrorism

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Does this work for car bombs? Asking for a friend

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