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[–] Solaris1789@jlai.lu 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is way too early especially for people running nvidia or still relying on software that can't work properly on wayland. I guess im sticking to xfce for a long while

[–] Ullebe1@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Won't most of those pieces of software work on xwayland?

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Most, but not all.

[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is sad. I still prefer xorg over Wayland. I have so many small customizations that depend on devilspie, wnck, and other tools that don’t have a complete Wayland replacement yet.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago

I mean, I don't disagree, but at some point it's gotta change if one is going to ever be able to have desktop apps that run sandboxed. X was never designed to have untrusted and trusted apps running on the same desktop, and the ways of approximating that are non-ideal.

What WM are you using? If it's sticking specific application windows on specific workspaces, i3 can do that:

https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html

And I understand that sway is mostly compatible with i3.

[–] hansmeiser666@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And again I'm glad I'm using KDE.

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I certainly hope the Wayland experience is better on Gnome than it is on KDE, otherwise a lot of Gnome users are not going to be happy. I tried KDE with Wayland and oh boy... Just some things I noticed on a daily basis:

Applications going completely unresponsive, as in: requiring kill -9 to terminate them. Solved for now by reverting to X11.

Stuff like the display configuration screen placing a gap between my external monitor and laptop screen, and then complaining that screens must be placed adjacently. Annoying as both X11 and Wayland insist on defaulting my 5120x1440 display to 640x480 each time I reconnect it, so I see that screen way too often. At least with X11 I don't have to manually drag screens to their proper places before being able to save my settings.

Window manager just completely locking up at random, requiring a hard reset.

If my experience on an AMD graphics laptop just under a year old is that bad, I hate to think how horrible the Wayland experience for Nvidia users must be judging by the comments here.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dammit, i'm not ready yet. I still need to port all my xmacro and xclip(board) automation to wl-clipboard and ydotool

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

calm lol, it is only a 8 line text file, that you can put there again it's just a sign that gnome isn't working on x11(there is other pull request that it REALLY remove x11 code, but it gonna take some timw, there is a few blockers that need tobe fixed or implemented) everything i said is in the pull request

[–] meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

bad news for nvidia users