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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Isn't it sus there is no Open Source Anti-Cheat Solution and most of them are proprietary( I am fine with proprietary software but just wondering about this) + I wonder if in the future EAC or Battle Eye will force the user to Install DKMS modules.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

If a company says it doesn't want my money, I am happy to oblige.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Anti cheat with kernel privileges? no, thanks.

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

i have no problem with privileged code or trusted computer code as long as it's open source, open protocols and managed by an open foundation of some sort

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Serious question, how does this work on Linux when using wine? Elden ring uses this one and it runs in Linux. It doesn't have kernel access does it?

[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 4 days ago

EAC on Linux uses special runtime usually provided by Steam and it runs in userspace. However, developers have to whitelist said runtime and that's where the issue is

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 69 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You can't solve cheating on the client.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. But it's the cheapest solution for the studio/publisher and most gamers blindly accept it, with some even actively defending the practice.

[–] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It is also insecure with possiblity to crash your computer, the only advantage is that it is cheap.

It's also easy.

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't think there's a way to solve it on the server either.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Solving it on the client is literally impossible, solving it on the server is difficult and could be impossible, big difference.

It's like someone trying to send a car to the moon by pulling the steering wheel. It's impossible, the fact that building a rocket is hard or that you don't know how to do it or that it could fail has no bearing on the fact that trying to pull the steering wheel on a car is definitely the wrong way to go about it.

In the same manner solving cheating on the client is the same kind of impossible, anyone defending it sounds like a flat-earther to anyone with the basic knowledge of client/server architecture.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yep and drm is a similarly impossible thing that many put on their best grown up faces and pretend is real.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There absolutely is, it just takes effort. Many MMOs do this, and as a result almost all of them are playable on linux.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

To be fair, cheating on a MMO is very different from cheating on a precision FPS game.

If you do pixel perfect inputs on a MMO it barely matters. If you do pixel perfect inputs on a FPS you can win an international tournament.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Stop giving EA money. It's not that hard. I haven't given them money for 10 years.

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Same, I stopped giving them money exactly 10 years ago, since they killed Dawngate, my beloved.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is the way... The last battlefield... I am still salty

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What's wrong about Battlefield 3?

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

EAC and battleye aren't that good at detecting VMs and can be made to run fairly easily in my experience.

RIOT vanguard though? Hell nah, this is one of the most invasive rootkits ever created.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

But Vms require 2 Gpus there is no GPU sharing like windows

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

yeh, I have 2 GPUs

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Simple solution. Don't buy those games.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Boycott PUBG and Rainbow Six Siege

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

No problem for me.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

In a never-ending arms race what can they hope to achieve by imprisoning a minority just in case they're more likely to be a spy?

Would like to see attempts to approach cheating in a non-hopeless way.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You could always... you know... buy either a "work-only" PC (something like a Orange pi 5 max) or a "Windows PC" to play these games?

t. Got three "computers" with different functions and I'm about to have a 4th one.