I freaking love it. It really exposes how people think, and that process is rarely rational, especially for those that love logic and facts.
But I'm not forceful with my opinions either.
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I would love to hear other opinions but I remember friendly political discussion being common in the US before the 2016 election. Not that people didn't argue but the bulk of discussions weren't as hot. Maybe I'm glamorizing it though. Does anyone else remember?
I think you might be glamorizing it a bit. Talking about politics was until "recently" considered very rude and taboo. There's been a big culture shift in talking about politics in the past maybe 15-20 years or so. I don't have any hard data and this is just my view, but I think a major turning point was when a lot of the country realized how fucked up the wars in the Middle East were. This put people squarely into two pretty emotional camps, pro-war and anti-war. Everyone* had an opinion. Everyone* was open about sharing that opinion. Over those few years 2003-2008 was probably the biggest shift in openly talking about politics among regular people. And since being open about politics was now in, here came the wave of loud and proud racism from "centrists" and conservatives once Obama was elected and it hasn't died down since.
So, yeah, it's real easy for discussions to get "hot" when one side is openly calling for all the -isms in the book and people on the other side finally realizing what's happening.
I like it. I am just very shy about it depending on who I am with because I struggle with being assertive enough to effectively engage with someone with a different opinion
Ugh, yes!
I feel like there's kind of an unspoken social pressure to be more or less non-chalant about most conversation topics. Like you've gotta know that someone is cool before you can let your guard down and show that you really care about something without it coming across as off-putting for whatever reason.
But not politics! Caring a lot about politics is responsible! And if you're to a point where you're already talking to someone about politics, it usually feels like that pressure to be chill has already passed anyway.
yes, but on the basis of mutual respect.
As a proud socialist I get into my fair share of political talks (:
Politics is defined simply as group decision making. Human beings are HARDWIRED to enjoy politics. All the ancient humans who didn't want to participate in politics died, because they didn't have a tribe to protect them. That's why everyone loves politics. And that's why all the highest grossing and most classic movies of all time are political. Jurassic Park, Terminator, Avengers, Citizen Kane, Avatar, Matrix, Harry Potter, 2001, Star Wars, they're all deeply political, because humans love politics.
Not enjoying politics is considered a psychiatric disorder. It's called antisocial personality disorder. People with ASPD struggle to fit in to society, because they don't like politics.