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Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don't get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.

Then on Oct 1, they threw up a "You're using an Ad Blocker" overlay on videos. I'd use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn't have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.

Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.

Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.

Now all I see is this.

Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.

I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can't view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 217 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don't get much from my choices.

Implying that deleting them from your view actually deleted them.

[–] AFreeLarryHoover@lemmy.world 115 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My man thought he was permanently erasing it from history.

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Next you’ll tell me cognito mode isn’t keeping my browsing completely private! /s

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[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 200 points 1 year ago (6 children)

All the morons defending a mindless corporation in this thread forgot that Google has far overstepped it's boundaries in general. It got to where it is from harvesting free data from users. And now is initiating a web DRM that will far overstep any boundary seen. If a website decides to adopt it, everyone is screwed.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrity-api-sounds-like-drm-for-the-web/

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It really is quite something seeing people so concerned on behalf Google's revenue streams, and dedicating such passionate advocacy for them.

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[–] BReel@lemmy.one 123 points 1 year ago (6 children)

“You can go ad free with YouTube premium!”

Buys premium

youtube shows ad for paramount plus under my video

Cancels YouTube premium.

So anywho there’s a thing called freetube. Just saying. Idk that it’s a perfect alternative, but it’s at least one step further from googles prying eyes and grubby hands.

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[–] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 110 points 1 year ago (8 children)

So, stop using Chrome ffs, ublock and Firefox have zero issues

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Swapped over about 3 months ago, it's good to be back in the FF ecosystem. Swapped to chrome long ago after FF became super fat on the resources, now it's the other way around.

FF + pihole is awesome.

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[–] jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (3 children)

YouTube: starts putting 2, sometimes even 3 ads that are often unskippable before and in the middle of 10 minute videos

Also YouTube: Why are people using adblockers?

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[–] CapitanStrider@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Ublock Origin literally works fine for youtube. If you ever receive a warning like this just clear your cache and refresh your filters.

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[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 year ago (23 children)

If you're on PC use Firefox with uBlock Origin.

For Android, Im personally using Libretube but using mobile Firefox with uBlock Origin also works.

[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

On android you should try to go with youtube revanced, its a little tedious and time consuming to install but it is worth every single second.

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[–] Comfortably_Wet@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Just to let you know, if you use uBlock you can expect it to adapt to this new shenanigan pretty quickly. Also I think €120/year are ridiciously overpriced. Ask me about €30/year and I might consider it for a second.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind ads on Youtube if they were less per hour and less obnoxious. But no, every 12 second video now has an ad leading to it.

Not to mention, if I would pay for every single Video service the usual 8-15€ I would pay like €1000 per year and THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Give me "pretty much everything" for €100 per year and we can talk. My offer stands.

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[–] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 year ago (9 children)

PC: Install Firefox. Then install these extensions: Sponsorblock for YouTube, Enhancer for YouTube, uBlock Origins with all the filters turned on except the language filters (you can use them if you wish) and Return YouTube Dislike. Keep uBlock Filters updated by checking for filter updates once a day.

Android: There's Revanced. I use pre-built apks along with Vanced MicroG from RVX Lite in Telegram.

Android TV: Install SmartTubeNext.

Enjoy.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Another tip: For security reasons, always install the absolute minimum number of browser extensions you can get by with. And only from devs you trust.

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[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't have a choice.

Also Ublock Origin on Firefox already bypass this.

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[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

When they take out uBlock Origin, they take me out as well.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 50 points 1 year ago (12 children)

If only peertube had the same culture as Lemmy and Mastodon.

But it feels like, imo, Peertube has fallen to the same pitfalls as other YouTube alternatives. 99% of vids I see on Peertube instances are far-right conspiracy theory videos among other obviously abhorrent content that would otherwise be banned on youtube.

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[–] Rukmer@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Newpipe is still working great, I haven't used an official interface in like 3 years.

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[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Lmfao, no one is dropping YouTube. You'll be back one way or another.

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many are on lemmy because they dropped Reddit. Myself included. I was an active user on Reddit for well over a decade. This guy seems pretty serious

[–] ours@lemmy.film 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But replacing Youtube is sadly much harder.

I bet we'll just get better ad blockers.

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ublock, revanced, newpipe and more

[–] WheatleyInc@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)

They're begging for a direct competitor.

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[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Ohhhh how I wish my favorite youtubers would create their own Peertube instances...
They'd have complete control of their own content, and any donations could go directly to them.

I know it's kind of a pipe dream, but let me dream dammit.

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[–] WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (39 children)

I hate ads as much as anyone and have been blocking them for almost as long as ad blockers have existed. I still acknowledge the fact that ads are the primary revenue source for a lot of things on the Internet, and I selectively enable them for content I want to pay for.

How do you think Youtube is supposed to survive without ads or subscriptions? When they puts ads on their site, the unsaid agreement is that you exchange your ad views for their service.

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[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

I enjoy watching YouTube with no ads so I bought premium. I actually bought the family one and share it with 4 others. Personally, I find it to be a great deal.

I also pay for extra storage (even tho I have a nas) because it’s convenient to have.

I’m a pirate at heart, have a 3k movie library on Plex and use nefarious to queue download, and I’m a long time crypto nut so I understand privacy and sticking it to the man.

But I also find great quality of life improvements by simply paying fair prices for good content 🤷‍♂️

It’s a fun hobby to try and dodge ads and steal and stick it to these companies. But really can be time consuming and gets old (it did at least for me when I got old).

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't seen so many shills in one place since the Russian special military operation began.

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 26 points 1 year ago

Route to 0.0.0.0 instead, localhost gives a delay while zero just fails.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If you're on a browser, use invidious - https://api.invidious.io/

If you're on android, use NewPipe - https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

Fuck google with the entire alphabet and their graveyard of ideas

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[–] ahah@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ublock origin + Firefox still works. try open ublock origin dashboard > Filter lists then click the purge all cachess button

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