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[–] wyrmroot@programming.dev 31 points 1 year ago

Throughout the trial, the Grenons represented themselves but did not speak in their defense, seemingly as a form of protest. They had court-appointed defense attorneys who stood by during the trial, but the Grenons did not allow them to speak for them.

In July, it took a Miami jury just 30 minutes to return the guilty verdicts for the four men, according to the Miami Herald.

The Herald reported that the men broke their silence during sentencing last week to plead for mercy and protest their prison terms.

Didn’t work out like ya hoped, huh?

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The real miracle is that someone actually believed it.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have the displeasure to know someone that believes in this. They believe in many other kinds of bullshit as well...

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People ain't coping well with modern conditions.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

People have always believed in crazy shit.

With each new communications technology Telegraph, voice recording, radio, Tv and the internet its proponents believed it would end ignorance and usher in an age of reason and enlightenment.

They have ben wrong, every time.

The only thing stronger than human ingenuity is human stupidity.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I think it's more like the contradiction of progress. Things feel less safe while they're statistically still safer than the past kind of thing. As humanity itself grows up with a more informed memory due to communications and education, there is far more to cringe at and change simply because more people observe it now.

People don't change as much as we like to pretend. It takes generations to fix bad things like bigotry and willful ignorance. The ability to communicate quickly across the entire globe for commoners is new.

Hell, I'm not even old enough to have grand kids and I remember thinking that talking to a European on the telephone would be really neat as a kid. Now I get to talk to them on the regular.

Humanity WILL wisen up some day, if we don't kill ourselves off, first. I hope some day it doesn't take entire generations to learn basic concepts like, "trickle down economics is a complete lie".

[–] sadreality@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Gonna need to cope bruh

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's worse than that... this church isn't the only one touting it, and people are giving it to their autistic kids to "cure" them.

[–] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

They know exactly how to push the buttons of desperate and impressionable people.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How did they come up with this, and why? Did someone told them to "drink bleach lol", then had an eureka moment?

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, a certain ex-president made an offhand remark trying to belittle the seriousness of covid and compared actual medicine with disinfectant

The internet being the internet, the meme became "drink/inject bleach!" and I guess some people actually took it seriously despite its obvious insanity.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Drinking bleach as medicine has been around longer than Trump, this church was started in 2010 and I don't think they were pioneers.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It was (somehow) worse than belittling COVID. Trump took the tiny amount of knowledge he had on a subject ("this sign says bleach kills COVID in surfaces"), extrapolated it out into a "solution" that was obviously wrong in so many ways, and then insisted that he must be right because he's an Amazing Genius That's Smarter Than Anyone Else.

Then, the Trump sycophants online took his statement and ran with it because he's an Amazing Genius That's Smarter Than Anyone Else. If doctors told them that bleach was dangerous to use in that way, they were dismissed as liberal intellectual elites trying to stop them from getting the real COVID cure.

It's stupidity following stupidity while announcing themselves as the height of intelligence.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bleach is a legitimate way of sanitizing drinking water. It's not a particularly long stretch to get from the sensible idea of properly using bleach to kill pathogens in your drinking water to the idiotic idea of using bleach to kill pathogens in your body. Even more so if you don't subscribe to germ theory, and bleach just "magically" improves the safety of your water supply.

Edit: disregard. Apparently, they were using an entirely different chemical. I can't even fathom how they could have thought it would work.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Fox News: "tHeY'rE oPpReSsInG uS! fAuChi iS aRrEsTiNg eVeRyOnE! biLL GaTeS!"

[–] LackingC10H12N2O@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surprised that Alex Jones wasn't somehow involved in this scam.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alex Jones seems to have stayed in the "supplement" market. That market is completely unregulated. You can pretty much put anything into pills and sell it as "supplements" without needing FDA approval.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Glad to hear it.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

So when Alex Jones sells bullshit medicine it's fine?

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are not feeling like #1, nor are they shining bright for everyone, but for a while they were living out their fantasy

[–] ladytaters@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They were the center of attraction for awhile though.