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Today I got this POP-UP, anyone? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Harry_h0udini@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Originally I've download the signal app through playstore, but often it also get updates from Droid-ify(Fdroid client). Today its weird and I got this . Explain to me this.

On the Droid-ify the signal app is provided by: org.thoughtcrimes.securesms

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[–] Skimmer@lemmy.zip 95 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Google is actually right here for once. Signal is not offered on F-Droid, and its package name is org.thoughtcrime.securesms, not org.thoughtcrimes.securesms.

Only official places to download Signal are through the Google Play Store or their website (which self-updates).

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[–] AnokLola@lemm.ee 63 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I recommend checking the official website or the Play Store to ensure that you are downloading the latest and official version of the app.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

https://www.signal.org/download/android/

The official website only links to Google Play for the Android client, even on the fairly "hidden" download page.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They hide it away, thats the tricky part

https://signal.org/android/apk/

Below the Playstore link

[–] AnokLola@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If the official website redirects you to the Play Store, then it is safe to download the app from there.

And to be noted, I don't think that the Android app client for Signal is available on F-Droid.

[–] Quereller@lemmy.one 59 points 11 months ago (2 children)

From which (enabled) repository does the app come. Signal is not on F-Droid or Izzydroid.

[–] sylphio@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about OP, but it is available in https://thecapslock.gitlab.io/fdroid-patched-apps/fdroid/repo and https://calyxos.gitlab.io/calyx-fdroid-repo/fdroid/repo

[–] Quereller@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

Yes, I heard that it is in the CalyxOS repo. This seems to be a legit version.

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

It is but in a different repo

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

"This app tries to spy on your personal data"

Needless to say Google hates competition

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 44 points 11 months ago

They hate the competition.

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 21 points 11 months ago

Pretty rich coming from google

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago

Google is like your big brother. They will beat the shit out of you. But If anyone else tries to beat you they will kick their ass.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago

they obviously want all the data to themselves

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

org.thoughtcrimes.securesms specifically?
I may be wrong but isn't the real one org.thoughtcrime.securesms, not "crimes"?

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's a fake copy of Signal

The actual package name is org.thoughtcrime.securesms, not org.thoughtcrimes.securesms

Also Google officially recommends Signal on the Android website last I checked, so I don't see why Play Protect would flag it as malware

edit: attach screenshot of package name

edit 2: fix typo in package name (accidentally typed thoughcrime)

[–] Harry_h0udini@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Thanks mate

[–] cl4p_tp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago

I'm on the apk from the signal website. This showed up for me as well.

[–] not_a_king@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

what i get from the playstore. i notice thoughtcrime vs thoughtcrimes fyi

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

I think it was a typo. I checked the droidfy (fdroid) version and

[–] Sygheil@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Maybe a botched version and goolag was triggered. On the safe side get rid of it.

Check the repo where it was downloaded.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll just drop this here

https://molly.im/

[–] nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What is the benefit of using this instead of Signal?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's named after a rave drug.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago

Hell yeah

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fully foss dependencies, degoogled (doesnt require Google Play services), and further hardening to the app. And you can still keep your signal contacts since it is just a fork. Available through Accressant, fdroid, and github.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

But note that you need to download the Fdroid version for the degoogled version

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Android tablets as linked devices is why I use it. Something Signal seems to refuse to add.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

It has an official F-droid repo.

Also it may work as a temporary solution for those who are having signal troubles

[–] Slow@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago

Use molly.Im. They have a repository for F-droid.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Are you installing from Playstore or FDroid?

[–] ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Got something similar yesterday, but for KDE-Connect from F-Droid. Downloaded the Play Store version instead.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Either it got compromised or Google is warning you because it has a different signature than the Google play version

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

~~The package name is correct~~, but signal was never on F-droid.

Do you have a third party repo that might be compromised?

Edit: Package name isn't correct, so that's almost definitely a compromised version. Get rid of it ASAP.

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[–] LoveSausage@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

org.thoughtcrime.securesms and I get mine from neo store /fdroid

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