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How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 118 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Rolling coal is the practice of installing a tampering device to pump more diesel into a vehicle’s engine than it can handle, leading it to spew out sooty black clouds of exhaust that pollute the air.

The practice is sometimes used as a form of anti-environmental protest. Coal rollers, or the drivers who engage in the action, may intentionally target Teslas, Priuses or other electric or hybrid vehicles.

Some people's dedication to being an asshole is quite astonishing. Imagine paying money just to be able to spew soot at other people's electric cars.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Some people are here to ~~watch~~ make the world burn.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

It's also a practice to used to attack other drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclist etc by blowing black soot in your face. Its often dangerous because it creates a smoke screen where you can't even see the road.

[–] TQuid@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Their favourite target is cyclists, as you might expect.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good, fuck those guys.

I'm not against people having trucks or modifying them for performance or off-roading or whatever, but people who modify their truck for no other reason than to pollute more are nothing but fucking assholes.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As long as the performance mods don't make them louder and they're driving them at night. Or if they do things like put bigger rims on and then complain about potholes in the roads or park in EV spots.

Unfortunately though, a lot of these people are peacocking, and many of them only modify their cars to ensure others notice them (which unfortunately also means annoying/inconveniencing others)

Many of biggest badasses I've met when hiking or mountaineering, drive the crappiest cars ever (some of them drive crappy old sedans)

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The bigger the truck, the more fragile the man.

[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's called petromasculinity.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Wait... Ebay is merely a marketplace where people or vendors use the platform to sell their goods.

Shouldn't the individuals be sued?

Or maybe it's because they could be in another country, so they go after the platform itself for allowing such devices to be sold?

[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Going after the marketplace is a more efficient strategy than playing whack a mole with individual sellers.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also being a marketplace they do have a duty to make sure that people are not selling illegal items on their platform.

Because if platforms didn't could you imagine how bad the Internet would be for buying things.

[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't disagree. I am generally in favor of keeping markets on a short leash. As you said, it could be a lot worse.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly, keeping markets on a shorter leash is also something I'm generally in favor of

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The correct way would be to go after the buyers

[–] DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The war on drugs would like a word.

[–] 520@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

As would the RIAA's war on piracy. Despite the exhorbitant fines being handed down, I don't believe they've made any profit from them.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a political bomb though. This accomplishes the same end goal and is a strong enough warning to prevent similar markets popping up in the future

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Well they are illegal, although enforcement is up to the local jurisdiction. If you try to install these in California for instance, you will have a bad day and they can and will impound your vehicle.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Agreed, but I hope they go after the sellers, too.

[–] You999@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Merketplaces can be held liable for third party sellers merchandise as it's ultimately up to the marketplace to chose what is allowed and prohibited to be sold.

Imagine a marketplace allowed vendors to sell human slaves and the government tells that marketplace that is very much not okay stop it. If that marketplace continues allowing third party vendors to sell human slaves then that marketplace has now also broken the law along with the third party vendor and potentially even the purchaser depending on how the law was written.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago
[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why not go after both?

They should then request all purchases of the devices, and go after the buyers too.

As a bonus, a lot of the people buying these are probably wife beaters or toxic f**wits. So, screw protecting them..

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's confusing because I kinda agree with some of your stereotyping and I'm not confident that is a good thing.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

It's anti-social behavior.

[–] fckgwrhqq2yxrkt@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

It's not a good thing, its a way to divide us and make us hate. Don't fall into that.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

I dunno, the article is pretty weak on details. Curious what comes of it.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I agree, hitting a couple of these sellers and manufacturers with multi-million dollar fines would be fucking great. They have to go onto X and complain to their drifting buddies that the only way to support Trump would be to bail them out of jail.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd love to see a bounty system for this. If I send my dashcam footage of some asshole rolling coal to the DOT I get a (untaxed) cash reward and the coal-roller gets a large fine and mandatory prius they have to drive for 3 years.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Then they'd realize Priuses actually haul ass from a stop and we'd start to see the first lifted Priuses with mud tires blaring twangy songs about going about life blaring twangy songs in a Prius

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Prius kick ass.

That is all I have to say about that

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Just wait till these guys find out about Tesla's!

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

now that many are on their second and beyond owners, priuses are mean aggressive little things

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago
[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ebay denied the charges in a public statement, saying it has blocked "more than 99.9% the listings for the products cited by the DOJ, including millions of listings each year."

A court will determine if that claim is true, but if yes, EBay as a market platform won't be liable. A 99.9% interception rate would indicate a considerable effort to prevent illicit trades.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

It is true. You will have your listing removed if you try to list something as an emissions defeat device. If you try a second time then your account will be banned.

I listed a carb exempt factory performance ecu made by the vehicle manufacturer and it was removed for going against the tos.

Although they do allow universal ecus like mega squirt. I could see performance programmers sneaking through if they avoid specific language. eBay can't know the specifics of every single item that gets listed.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

interesting they're not going after Amazon for the same thing

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

Hopefully that's a "Not yet," but we'll see

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Not yet..

Sadly, some knobs will go to extreme efforts to try to impress people to be different and stand out. Stuff like this is GENUINELY an attempt to mask their insecurities

[–] r0bi@infosec.pub 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't know about other states, but in Texas they don't even test diesel emissions during our annual registration / inspection. Totally ridiculous!

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Vehicle inspections are going away entirely in Texas in 2025.