Well, we past our tipping point in the US a while ago, so...
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Good, the only way people will get a living wage is if the people stand with them and refuse to tip
A gas station that I go to added a tips jar a few years ago. Wtf. You aren't doing shit but tapping on a sale screen. I really like the people working there. They remember me and we chat. But I'm not tipping you because I bought a Gatorade and you rang it up.
On the other hand, I dated someone from another country who didn't live a tipping culture. When she covered a meal and didn't tip, I'd leave cash because I know it's expected. I was embarrassed that she didn't agree with our custom.
Tipping needs to go. Just pay people a fair wage.
Tip fatigue is real. When every interaction with a touchpad asks you for a little something extra on top of inflation, it gets old fast.
I tip 20% when I get served by a person. I typically add 10-15% on carryout, for their troubles.
A brewery I go to weekly for dinner with friends recently changed the tip buttons on the pad to 18, 22, and 25. I like them a lot, but the place is pricey, and you have to go to the bar to order. They get the 18% button now. (I could do the math, but... beer)
Door dasher in Australia here: after about 500 completed orders, I can say I've been tipped once, by this old lady like A$5.
Tipping is stupid. I'm not incentivised to do anything better. The app would just give everyone crappier orders if everyone tipped.
No tips required when I make aldis toquitos and drink in the basement. Why would you give business to a place that expected tipping?
The problem is that there is a rise of expectations for tips in places that previously didn't involve tips. That, and the expected percentage for places where it is normal to tip has gone up. And people are reasonably tired of it.
It's perfectly ok to do both, to be tired of it and avoid such places.
And now that Trump wants to make tips tax free, I'm about to tip even less. At least by the amount of the tax deduction.
Good, keep it up
I'm not in the best health so I do a lot of order at home.
GrubHub/DoorDash/etc. all calculate the tip based on the order + their fees, not the order itself.
If I order a $60 dinner, I'm tipping 20% of $60. Not 20% of $60 + your delivery fee and your service fee.
Tipping has always been a stupidly arbitrary thing to base tips on anyway, especially for delivery drivers.
As a driver, I accept runs based on dollar per mile because that's what actually factors into my income. I don't care what you ordered unless it's 100 items at the grocery store with cases of water bottles. The price is always irrelevant
Stop tipping culture. Pay your workers.
I think at some point we need to agree as a society on a no-tipping day in which we stop paying tips, and just keep it up. After that point, no tipping for anything, and rather than not tipping being a stigma, tipping becomes a stigma.
Just stop going to places that expect you to tip their workers. It's easy, as those are often the most expensive places to go to.
Not tipping doesn't fix the problem, it just hurts those barely getting by who are also victims of a shitty capitalist system.
Going Luigi on those furthering income inequality would be better.
We can do both. And the first encourages the second, as well as encouraging unions.
The whole threat of workers suffering without tips is the financial equivalent of terrorism. "Fork over the cash or these innocents get it".
It needs to end, and it's not going to end by giving into those demands.
Sorry, I don't agree. I've worked hospitality and a lot of my friends work hospitality. A sudden dry spell of tips would mean unpaid medical bills, no clothes for a kid, no food on the dinner table, no gas to get to work. People have to try and budget just for the shortfall that typically occurs in January.
I'm not opposed to changing the system, but I think you underestimate how many people live day to day or week to week. Suddenly nobody tipping at all won't magically make people unionize or their bosses pay more.
What needs to happen first are steps to kill the massive and ever-increasing wealth divide.
This isn't a sudden dry spell though, it's something that is slowly changing over the years. Part of that is because everyone is in financial pain right now. But that should be your expectation if you're going into a job where your wages are dependent on how well others are doing, you should expect and prepare for the inevitable times where others aren't doing great.
What needs to happen first are steps to kill the massive and ever-increasing wealth divide.
Yes, we need to solve that. But people just rolling over and accepting 30% tips at the self serve mini market isn't the solution here.
Blame the companies, not the customers. I bought a $12 water at a concert and the attendant acted offended I didn't tip. Don't get mad at me.
I would never go back to that venue. $12 for a water...
Yea, we're getting exhausted from being constantly barraged by demands for tips.
This is only going to get worse as late-stage capitalism continues to wring every last penny it can out of the working class.
American tip culture is fucked, and it has been for a very long time. Once gas stations started begging for a tip on my soft drinks I figured it was about time to rip the band aid off.
Unfortunately tipping less means wait staff are gonna get fucked -- no way to soften that. We need to get to a place where their livelihoods aren't dependent on generosity.
I did self checkout for the first timw last week. Mothee fucking thing asked for a tip!
no way to soften that
Don't go there. E Z
They what?
at one point they need to learn that to protect their livelihood unionize is the answer, not asking customers to subsidize what the employers are not giving.
I still tip wait staff 20% I just don’t tip at the grocery store. The most egregious I’ve seen was a tip at a full self-service counter. Like who am I even tipping? The cash register?
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