my number one qualm with little red book so far is there is no native translation like tiktok has. lots of google translate is necessary to get the social media to social :P

necessary disclaimer: fuck the CCP and all the real violence and repression they do. just want to give credit given where due, and so far here im just seeing a lot of assumptions with no evidence? so im gonna post what my experience is :) i welcome all to do the same

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The level of shortsightedness in people is astounding to me again and again. History really seems to always repeat. When will people ever learn that there is no company in the world that is their friend.

"Oh, but it looks fine and i havent had any issue" says the little user that is currently feeding the networking effect of the next platform, that will inevitably fail in exactly the same way as every other for profit social media.

"Oh, but everyone is here and i dont wanna switch again" says the little user that now has the choice between losing all their feeds and follows or staying on a platform slowly being squeezed for money or political incentives.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From what I've seen, a lot of queer people are afraid to be themselves there. Some may even experience backlash and threats of violence for being LGBTQIA. There's a lot of hostility to us across that entire nation tbh.

On top of that, there is constant scrutiny with mass state surveillance. Queer and POC may be silenced or even face imprisonment for expressing themselves. And don't forget that nation's concentration camps, genocide, torture of political prisoners, and barring people who don't toe the party line from residency and citizenship.

Oh wait, that isn't Red Note. That's the USA and my small town.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

BWAHA you had me in the first half ngl 😆😆

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You might appreciate this.

This guy asked people on Red Note if it's ok to be gay, and I laughed at the response:

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Now ask if you can be in a gay marriage in China (nope).

Ask if it is completely legalto be fired just because you are gay (yup).

China isn't good on LGBTQ+ rights

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Neither is the US. Have you been paying any kind of attention?

We had to throw bricks, go to prison, and die in public to get what little we have in spite of the state, and the second we got the tiniest shred of equity, they're working on oppressing us even more than before Stonewall.

You're talking to someone who's been explicitly terminated from a job explicitly for being gay. Legally. With no uncertain terms that was the reason.

Not to mention my queer ass will just fucking die next time I can't afford life-saving healthcare.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I can get gay married in the USA. There currently are legal protections against discrimination in the USA. The USA is without question a better nation for LGBT+ rights than China.

You have legal recourses available to ypu in the USA if your claim is true. There are none in China.

Healthcare is not free in China either. It's almost as if theyare really terrible at pursuing leftism.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

China doesn't have millions dying each year from lack of access to healthcare, and every single person on Xiaohongshu is learning how shockingly bad it is here in the USA, while we are unlearning the Red Scare propaganda we've been fed. I suggest you join us.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They used to have shitty healthcare but the government put efforts to change that because they were embarrassed to be the second wealthiest nation and have such poor outcomes.

Regardless they are absolutely less free than the USA and are undisputedly worse on LGBT+ rights according to their legal codes. There's no propaganda here. The Chinese government does not grant equal rights.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The US also doesn't grant equal rights. We are literally a genocidal settler colonist state that supports genocidal regime and puts fascists in power, like what you talking about Willis lmao

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And China's a genocidal imperialist totalitarian state if we apply the same standards.

The fact is legally speaking you currently are vastly less free in China. It's moronic to claim otherwise. This is easily proven by looking at your rights on speech for example.

China is less free than most countries. China has a state that forces inequality because at their core the Chinese Communist Party is hypocritical and seeks to oppress the masses

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They arrest anyone in the US who protests against the actions of the state.

But I'll remember when I'm dying from lack of affordable food, housing, and healthcare, that at least I was able to share a few more of my hot takes online than other people.

Anyway, I'm not defending China. I hope you learn to get past the propaganda. It's quite liberating.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have protested against the state nany times. I have directly stated to Governor Mitt Romney, who was in office at the time, that I hoped he was a single term governor. I haven't been arrested for that.

I have protested every military conflict the USA has been involved in since 1991 and Im not in jail.

Stating China is less free is a fact that's not propaganda.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Less free in this one aspect perhaps, more free in others. Not really "freedom" when we have so many houseless people, people senselessly perishing from lack of healthcare and food, etc.

Also, it sounds like you were protesting for change within the system. People have drastically different experiences when they protest the system itself. They may even be arrested or deported, which is something I've personally seen happen. Talk to the anti-genocide protestors on college campuses about this "freedom" of yours. Hell, there are even laws against boycotting a genocidal regime in an organized fashion.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Nope less free across the board. China is a repressive state when it comes to rights. This isn’t an opinion it is a fact. There are countries freer than the USA but the overwhelming majority of nations are freer than China.

Have you ever studied any political philosophy in a formal setting? Im suspecting you have not since you seem to not understand what constitutes “freedom” in this context.

In China you can’t suggest they stop having their current government. That’s a HUGE problem if you are trying to argue how free a society us as it means the masses have no say in their future.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is useless propaganda. I'm familiar with all of these talking points. The metrics used to determine freedom and democracy are invalid tools of Western Imperialist nations to bolster the illusion that we have more freedom that others.

I'm being cautious not to defend either state, but you are treading pretty close to sounding like you're defending the US system, and I would like to remind you as one of the moderators here that defending inherently inequitable and oppressive systems such as capitalism, fascism, genocide, and imperialism are forbidden in this community.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As an aside if your claims that "defending inherently inequitable and oppressive systems such as capitalism, fascism, genocide, and imperialism are forbidden in this community." doesn't seem to appear in the guidelines for what is not approved in that instance. If this is your actual policy you should include that information in your sidebar.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That was my bad, and I'm sorry. I thought we were speaking in a completely different community. If I had realized this was the now-defunct 196, I would have stopped talking a long time ago. My bad.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you talking world or oneninetysix which is also blåhaj? Blåhaj has no warning on this for the instance

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, I'm talking about the community I moderate on blahaj. It's explicitly for sharing from a leftist or post-leftist perspective, but the rules have to be strict because otherwise it gets overrun by people wanting to go off-topic.

In addition to this, this particular 196 community is now retired, making matters more confusing. I took a months-long break from Lemmy, and that's why I forgot to check the community name in my notifs.

Genuinely, in spite of our disagreements, I apologize. I never would have come on so strong if I didn't think this was Liberty Hub.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gotcha, that would make sense.

I too took a break until recently.

I still think you need to take a minute to look into how much freer many nations are on a fundamental level than China. That’s not propaganda it’s factual. Not every nation or government values freedom equally.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm interested in ensuring everyone has equal access to food, shelter, and healthcare

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And many nations do all of those things better than China while retaining greater individual freedoms. We don't have to become authoritarians to achieve this goal.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We're already living in a single-party state that enslaves and murders POC and indigenous people with impunity, and which bars anyone remotely leftist from residency and citizenship to maintain the status quo. Not sure how that's better, but go off

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what country you live in but we clearly do not reside in the same nation or state of mind if you believe what you claim.

Regardless Im not here to defend America. China being substantially less free by every metric than many other nations is an easily verified fact.

Ypu don't have to be authoritarian to meet people's basic needs. China chooses authoritarianism because it benefits their investor class nit because it benefits the working class.

I don't understand why anyone claiming to support liberty or freedom would back China. That's like joining the Los Angeles County Sheriff's dept because you want to fight back against gangs.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

China being less free *by every metric invented by econbros in Western Imperialist Nations

And I'm not supporting China. I'm simply saying we're in no position to be throwing stones.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No the metrics for freedom aren't invented by economists but are determined by political scientists. I think you're demonstrating a common failure in Leftists who are self educated in leftism in that ypu have reactionary responses to situations you aren't informed on.

What metric are you taking issue with? Self determination is always the biggest one and Chinese citizens do not have this. If the masses wanted to pursue Communism harder and Xi did not (and he does not) they don't have this option. Not being able to decide the direction of your nation is a significant sign of oppression.

You do not have equivalent rights under the law as gay people because you cannot marry and domestic partner rights are less than married. There is no path to LGB+ marriage. I'm just not as equal in China.

Do we need to address freedom of speech? You have more in most nations than in China.

Look at that 3 major freedoms none of which are economic and all of which China is just bad at. You started everything repeatedly suggesting I bought into propaganda and Im hoping you see how much propaganda you are accepting uncritically here.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Anyone: "Did you know in China they have this cool thing? Just an interesting cultural difference I thought I'd share. Making new friends and learning about the world on this app is so cool :)"

Someone inevitably: "So you know that as we speak Chinese citizens are being forced at gunpoint to do their hourly salute to the east in honour of Xi Jinping, right? 🙂 And also that they hate you? 🫣 Did you know what they hate you oh my god they hate you so much and are plotting this very moment to get a hold of your ebay browsing data (like all the other american tech corps but wtv 🙄) to undermine our righteous american way of life (which has its itty bitty teeeeeny tiny flaws 😬) but is clearly superior in all ways to China's constant brutal day to day moment by moment–"

I really hope you start to deconstruct the McCarthy inside of you. Best wishes to you.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you not see how much of a non-response you gave? It's a strawman. At no point have I made any untrue statements. Please try to demonstrate how not being able to decide the direction and philosophy of your government in any meaningful manner makes you free.

I hope you realize how illogical your arguments are here because you aren't making any coherent point other than demonstrating a lack of real education on these subjects.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Scariest stories. Try not to get Red Scared.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you capable of having an informed adult conversation? You seem to be struggling with your ability to respond intelligently. If you really think you have a valid point to make then do that. If you can only respond in pre-drafted talking points you picked up from the internet consider not replying and maybe read a book.

fir fucks sake you think economists are the ones making lusts of what constitutes freedom

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a shitposting sub, and you are a tar pit

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You didn't start off talking this way. You shifted to it when I challenged you in ways you normally aren't for example by pointing out the many ways in which China has abandoned leftist ideal by supporting an investor class and exploiting the working classes to enrich the elites. You don't have a built in reply because you're used to arguing talking points not having to actually think.

You seemed to actually be capable of thinking so it is sad that you made this choice.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago

Yeah I'm so owned right now

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well whoever said CCP will censor LGBT content doesn't know much about the CCP.

On the other hand try posting anything critical about the Chinese government...

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Chinese writer sentenced to 10 years in prison for homoerotic book

A Chinese novelist has been sentenced to 10 years in prison for writing and distributing homoerotic novels, provoking widespread debate online over the severity of her sentence.

The female writer, surnamed Liu, but more commonly known by her internet pseudonym Tianyi, was arrested in 2017 following the success of her novel “Occupy,” according to reports in Chinese state media.

The book was described by police in East China’s Anhui Province as depicting “obscene sexual behavior between males” set to themes of “violence, abuse and humiliation.”

[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He wrote porn, full stop. Creating pornographic content is an offensive, regardless of content or audience. But good work posting a sensationalized version of events that happens to align with us state dept propaganda.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Creating pornographic content is an offensive, regardless of content or audience

What the actual fuck?! Where… do people with such a surreal worldview even come from?!

[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

...that was nearly the entirety of the worlds view for most of post printing press history. But in this case a majority of China's citizens felt pornography was offensive, so it's now illegal. Not enough people care to introduce or vote in legislation to make it legal.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not enough people care to introduce or vote in legislation to make it legal.

lol, not enough people vote in a dictatorship or protest against the dictatorship to make it legal.

[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

China has a robust democracy where every citizen can vote. It's a dictatorship of the proletariat. The reason you think differently is because you've never talked with someone that's ever been to China, much less a citizen of China, so you internalized racist propaganda.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

:KEKW: its sad that you actually think that, but no, a one party system is, in fact, not a democracy

[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

There are hundreds of parties in China. The CPC is the starting point, the base set of ideas you have to uphold to hold office. It's the same as swearing to uphold the constitution in the US.