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England 0 - 0 Italy

Venue: Wembley Stadium, London, England

Referee: Clément Turpin (France)


England:

Starting XI Notes Subs Notes
Jordan Pickford Aaron Ramsdale
John Stones Sam Johnstone
Harry Maguire Lewis Dunk
Kyle Walker Levi Colwill
Kieran Trippier Marc Guéhi
Kalvin Phillips Trent Alexander-Arnold
Declan Rice Jarrod Bowen
Marcus Rashford Jordan Henderson
Jude Bellingham Conor Gallagher
Phil Foden James Maddison
Harry Kane Jack Grealish
Ollie Watkins

Manager: Gareth Southgate (England)


Italy:

Starting XI Notes Subs Notes
Gianluigi Donnarumma Alex Meret
Giorgio Scalvini Guglielmo Vicario
Francesco Acerbi Alessandro Bastoni
Giovanni Di Lorenzo Gianluca Mancini
Destiny Udogie Federico Gatti
Bryan Cristante Matteo Darmian
Davide Frattesi Federico Dimarco
Nicolò Barella Manuel Locatelli
Domenico Berardi Giacomo Bonaventura
Stephan El Shaarawy Giacomo Raspadori
Gianluca Scamacca Moise Kean
Riccardo Orsolini

Manager: Luciano Spalletti (Italy)


MATCH EVENTS

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[–] neverfinishedanythi@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Inter why have your players been shit for us but good in the league. So frustrating.

[–] kkulhope@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Grealish slows down every attack

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[–] Ok-fine-man@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Great game, but fuck Southgate

That lad was running around his bedroom 10 years ago with his arms up

And the crowd goes wild for Bellingham

Living the dream lad, living the dream, and worthy off it.

[–] LethalJizzle@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Southgate out here instructing the team to adopt the "9 minutes into the Euros final" tactics with the amount of backwards passes from an attacking position.

[–] Mean_Stretcher@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just dont understand how jack manages to get so many fouls against him

[–] Impale64@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's those massive calves. Larger surface area.

[–] EyePiece108@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Great 2nd half by England. Bellingham, Rashford, Foden and Kane have turned up big time and Italy have had no answer.

[–] FrodoFraggins99@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Bro San Marino scored against Denmark

[–] appealtoreason00@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Very pleased to see Guéhi getting a proper chance

[–] happygreenturtle@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now imagine we had Guehi in every game instead of Harry Magliability

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[–] brokebatmountain@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just think lads that this time next year we would have won the euros

[–] urnangay420blazeit@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lmao that’s ambitious

[–] fuqqkevindurant@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You played one of the weakest Italy squads possible and had a lot of trouble, relying on Jude Bellingham literally being Zidane and Scalvini making mistakes like a 19 year old defender is expected to.

If you think that game showed you're not going to have trouble even seeing a semi-final, you had about 15 beers too many

[–] mynameisfreddit@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shame so many left the stadium when we just qualified

[–] fuqqkevindurant@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's not a surprise you qualified yesterday, it would have taken one of the craziest sequences of events possible for England to fail to qualify, so why should all of those people get themselves stuck in traffic and unable to get home for an extra few hours just to celebrate a formality?

Act like you've been there before for christ's sake

[–] Ok-fine-man@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Bellingham Jesus reincarnated?

[–] fuqqkevindurant@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Jesus was just a prophet letting us know that Jude was on his way

[–] RjHospe@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Who's ready for another stream of Bellingham posts in the sub and people acting angry about it in the comments? 🙋‍♂️

[–] traveloshity@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha, what is she talking about? That atmosphere is shit considering we’ve just qualified for a major tournament!

[–] Opposite_lmage@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You’re there are you?

[–] Hits_and_the_Mrs@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Just listened to vindaloo all the way through for the first time in years, what a tune, what nostalgia

[–] Volotor@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

We've gone and done the double over Italy, amazing from the lads.

[–] yellow__cat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

There were some interesting and risky tactics by Spalletti to play with a back 5 in the defensive phase with El Shaarway dropping to LWB, and transiting to some kind of 2-3-5 in possession with Udogie stepping in the midfield, and Frattesi stepping into the forward line, and Di Lorenzo constantly overlapping on the right. It worked decently in the first half, but was ultimately this was way too unbalanced as every goal was conceded from too few players in defensive zones during transitions. I preferred last weeks tactics where Darmian stayed back so that we always had 3 defenders while Dimarco had freedom to push up the left flank and Raspadori/Kean could drift into the middle.

Ultimately this team is built to play in a traditional back three system, so if Spalletti is going to insist on a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 he needs to pick a first XI and keep the team and tactics as consistent as possible. Pressing is the most important feature in Spalletti's teams and it's not going to be easy for these players to pick up the right patterns when they only train together ever few months, so he needs to make things as simple as possible for them. You could see today they were confused about who needs to step where.

Considering all of our defenders play in back 3 systems at club level, we need to be more defensively stable and conservative if we're going to use a back 4 against top teams. If we play with Dimarco as LB, the RB needs to stay in defensive positions to support the CBs (Bastoni/Acerbi/Scalvini/Mancini/Gatti who are always used to having a 3rd player), like Darmian did to great effect against Malta. Di Lorenzo was a great defensive RB in previous seasons, but he's gotten a taste for goals and assists and is way too eager to join the attack, leaving use hugely unbalanced in defensive transitions.

Overall the game today wasn't as bad as the scoreline and comments make it seem. There were some good moments and some bad luck (Udogie almost scoring to make it 2-1; Phillips not getting the second yellow he deserved) against some of the most in form players in the world, but Spalletti has a huge job on his hands if he expects to turn this team into anything like what his Napoli was.

[–] OnceIWasYou@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, it was hard to concentrate on this game after hearing what happened a couple hours earlier.

Bellingham is magic and Kane is just class though.

[–] dawgs912@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What happened?

[–] Dafunkbacktothefunk@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

As much as I am annoyed with him about the Henderson thing - can’t really fault Gareth on what he’s built here, this team just eases through the gears so smoothly.

[–] Old_Harry7@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Embarrassing play by the referee, Philips should have been expelled in the first half or at least given a straight red card in the second half, there was a clear pen for England in the second half.

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