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As an American, I would support such a ban. the rest of the world shouldn't be subjected to American social media.
I can't really get away from a 'benevolent dictator' mindset on this, I support good things and don't support bad things. Good and bad being defined be me alone. X and Meta feel like bad things to me so away they go. So the following feels like post hoc justification of the above, right?
I oppose oligarchy, X and Meta are products of oligarchs and as such wouldn't oppose their ban.
Nope
There is a Paradox of Tolerance that essentially says that if you are tolerant of the intolerant, all tolerance will eventually be overrun.
This is what's currently happening in the USA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
I don't think that banning them is going to fix anything, but sanctions for not controlling the platform and prosecuting and punishing perpetrators is going to make an impact felt way beyond simply banning a platform.
Being in a civil society requires effort. So far the effort in curtailing the extremism embodied by USA social media has been incidental at best.
No. How much shit do we need to ban before you dumb fucks understand prohibition never fucking works and only fuels more crime.
You might be interested in this piece from a government funded Australian think tank about escaping the current social media environment
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/social-media-as-it-should-be/
Disclaimer: I am American, but just want to point out the problem with any proposed censorship:
So y'all know VPNs exist right?
Like, look at the red states here in the US, they just bypass the "Age Verification" with VPNs.
So what's the point?
Are y'all banning VPNs too?
Doesn't that feel similar to umm...
People's Republic of China and the "Great Firewall"?
Are y'all sure that's the future y'all wanna have?
I would not. Why? It won't fix anything. People would just switch to TikTok or Telegram or something, which is not that much better
I am American so I can't really answer but what would count as American social media?
I feel like it would be most large social network sites and an unpredictable amount of smaller ones
monopolistic social media owned by big tech american companies, like X, Instagram and Facebook.
...can you help ban them in the US, too, please?
I don't know, but I really would like to see country specific social media.
All meta apps, they're used for our government's propaganda, yes.
No. But I would like them to be forced to use activitypub to operate.
Twitter: yes 1000 percent. Meta: businesses, landlords and social workers communicate via whatsapp here so I'd prefer bigger fines and more pressure on meta.
Yes, I use signal messenger, but I also quite literally need WhatsApp unfortunately.
I mean... if whatsapp get banned, people would just use something else, or just use sms.
100% yes. They have shown time and time again to do whatever the fuck they like with no regard to laws.
Yep