Our bid is probably better without a nation that's actively committing a genocide in West Papua, tbh.
Replacing them with NZ to make it an Australia-Malaysia-New Zealand-Singapore bid would be great.
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Well, Malaysia also doesnt interest in bidding 2034 world cup. Prefer to support Saudi bid instead.
that's a more solid coalition than trusting any bullshits from Indonesian gov.
Forgive my ignorance. But does Indonesia have very many sporting stadiums?
Not much for stadium above 40000 capacity, most of them are athletic stadium
Jakarta: GBK & JIS Surabaya : GBT Pekanbaru : Riau Main stadium (need big renovation) Balikpapan : Batakan Samarinda : Palaran (need big renovation)
Some of them below short of 40000 capacity Bandung:GBLA, Jayapura:Lukas Enembe & Banten Province:BIS (38000 capacity)
Jakabaring?
It’s all so disgraceful. It was already essentially a lock, but this just confirms it a bit more. Indonesia isn’t in a position to host, but that’s not the point.
I don’t get how FIFA is going to allow this bid. FIFA had this rule to be able to host a bid: “hosts are required to have at least fourteen all-seater stadiums with a capacity of 40,000, with a minimum of seven being pre-existing.”
Saudi Arabia has 2 such pre-existing stadiums. They didn’t meet the requirement (the South American bid did). But of course FIFA suddenly decided to relax that rule for Saudi.
Imo, it would’ve been much more ethical for the South American countries to renovate a few existing stadiums that will continue to be used after the World Cup rather than allow/encourage Saudi to spend billions to build 10+ brand fucking new stadiums that will mostly sit empty after the cup.
Fuck FIFA and Saudi (and CONMEBOL for being fine with this shit).
Saudi Arabia has 2 such pre-existing stadiums. They didn’t meet the requirement (the South American bid did). But of course FIFA suddenly decided to relax that rule for Saudi.
Australia doesn't have meet those requirements either (most of the 40k+ stadiums are Ovals that don't meet the sightline requirements) so the rule relaxation benefits them too.
That is far more easy to relax on then Saudi Arabia having only 2/14 stadiums and needing to spend billions in 12 more stadiums for absolutely no fucking reason and will be used for nothing after the wc. Australia already has all the required grounds and the reason they are all ovals are because they are cricket grounds but they will be used before and long after the wc for cricket and afl so it's not wasting any money
I'm not arguing who has the better bid. The point is that loosening the requirements benefitted Australia too, not just SA.
Used for nothing? this is not Qatar
Saudi Arabian league is very popular in the region and draws tens of thousands in attendance even before the last shopping spree and is currently in the top 10 most valuable leagues in the world, let alone in 10 years time
You’re basing your opinion on the assumption South American countries can renovate their stadiums.
South America is broke. They can either print more money and cause more inflation (not good) or find someone willing to loan them (not likely since most of them are already drowning in IMF loans).
There is a reason South America let Spain have 2030 without a fight. Unless their economy gets better they know FIFA won’t let them hold a WC.
Call me crazy but isn’t it strange that FA’s are publicly announcing support for bids before all of them are even announced
Nice, Muslims supporting each other