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[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Unfortunately not Open Source: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE

I'll keep using NewPipe. Their software seems neat, I'll happly pay for it, but no way I'll do if there is licence like that.

Edit: They say the licence is only temporary. Let's keep an eye which one they'll choose later.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 29 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Louis explains the license in the video. You can fork it and modify it, but if you fill it up with ads, spyware, malware etc., they fill fuck you.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's their goal. They have good intentions. But it also means no commercial use.

You can't do "Hey, can you add this feature to this app, I'll pay you" or "Here is much improved version you can buy from me" or "We give you paid support and help for this software for your company". Eventually all improvements bounce back to original creators anyway, see: vital paid Wordpress theme ecosystem, most of them being GPL licenced.

With project getting bigger such restriction can be almost as bad as with propietary app. Like, imagine Linux kernel but only with Linus Torvalds having right to sell computers with it or offer any services making money.

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[–] Skelectus@suppo.fi 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I sympathise with his reasoning for the license but still, that sucks.

I think I'll try it anyway, though. It's trying to solve a real issue.

[–] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Is there any way to view live content in New pipe? I love watching the young Turks when it's on, but I have to use the YouTube app because I cannot figure out how to watch a live broadcast in new pipe.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Better revanced = NewPipe

No algorithms, no Google tracking

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I personally find LibreTube even better, since it syncs with your Piped account.

[–] signs23@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

But you cant cast videos to SmartTube with it. So i think Revanced has the better versatility.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'd rather not give all my details for multiple sites to one site...regardless of who's doing it.

[–] potato@lemmy.basedcount.com 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well actually, your login info never goes to them at all. You log into the sites directly in a webview and it uses the cookie to sync your subs and recommendations locally on your device.

[–] jellyfish@beehaw.org 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The app needs two things: YouTube SponsorBlock, and the ability to tag creators and filter by tag/interest. I'm really hopeful they add those two things, and I'd be a convert.

Oh and an android TV version while you're at it ^^

[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Oh and an android TV version while you're at it

It could hardly get better than SmartTubeNext.

[–] thagoat@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

SmartTube is the shizz on TV.

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[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Y'all are ignoring what this actually is - an app for EVERY video platform. Also, restrictive license is fine as long as the source code is available. Rossman explains this is to keep people from just forking and making scam versions of the app like NewPipe sees.

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[–] Gamey@feddit.de 14 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I will keep a eye on it but till the license changes I will stick with my tried and true Newpipe and Libretube apps. Both of those are "improved revanced" to me already but the idea of multiple sources is a cool one, not new but certainly cool and I haven't seen Nebula in other attempts but I just wish people could agree on a addon standard to implement services for various of those apps and media centers at once!

[–] signs23@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can you cast videos to SmartTube/TV?

That's the thing im missing from those apps and it seems its not possible.

[–] venoft@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You can, I do it every week. Just link your TV to your phones YouTube app and cast.

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

That's something I am also very much interested in but I haven't looked it up or tried yet so no clue!

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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

Brand new alpha video player app already has background play, Floatplane devs in shambles

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Something about Louis just strikes me as extremely untrustworthy. I'm not sure what it is, but it's definitely there.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

everything I've ever seen about the guy is legit. he works for consumer rights, if you want untrustworthy look at Apple.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

New York accent? I've occasionally watched his videos for years, and he seems to be a decent guy. He may be an asshole IRL for all I know, but generally supports stuff like right to repair, privacy, ad-blockers, etc. He's a business owner, so he's pro-business biased when consumers aren't being completely shafted. He's YouTuber, so he likely has narcissistic tendencies.

[–] duplexsystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago

Met him IRL. Super nice, but he's got a hard edge which might put people off.

[–] alldreadme@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He might come off as edgy but honestly he's one of the few people I trust online. Dude did amaizing stuff with right to repair stuff too.

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 7 points 11 months ago
[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

Love the aggregation idea! Gonna check back onto it after some months, until then I'm sticking with good ol' Revanced.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I use inotia00's version of ReVanced, ReVanced Extended. It adds way more options for fine tuning

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

And if it ever gains much popularity, Youtube will find ways to break its ability to source videos from their platform.

[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Neat idea. I'm going to watch how this develops but I don't see it ever becoming much of a thing until there is iOS support. I'm not an iPhone user. Just realistic.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Gamey@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Third party frontends of all kinds are forbidden on the Play and App store but we Android users have F-Droid and if the license is changed at some point (it's supposed to be temporary as far as I understand) it will probably land there, till then Obtanium is probably your best bet I guess.

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is on the Google Play Store.

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Very interesting, I doubt it's going to stay there long because this is literally the first third party frontend of all kinds I as privacy enthusiast have ever seen accepted and I really wonder how they did that!

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

Almost no third party frontend supports iOS because of their absolutely shitty sideloading limitations and they still work great...

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This idea has definitely been tried before and has consistently failed

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I love it.. but honestly, i spend 99% of my time on desktop, so this just doesn't help me.

[–] JewGoblin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wonder what's the business model?

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

There is an optional "purchase" in app which is interestingly difficult to find.

It doesn't actually effect any functionality but I'm willing to bet it will in future once we're all hooked.

You should try the app it's actually very good

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[–] potato@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 11 months ago

Hmm. It works very well on my old Samsung phone but it crashes immediately on my current 1+ phone. It literally opens directly to the crash dump screen. Lmao. That said, using this on my old phone, it's already extremely well done. Having all of my video sources in one app is a great idea. Hope they fix the current issue so I can use it on my current phone.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I like Libretube but I'm always willing to try something new.

Edit: Wish TikTok was a source.

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