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After creating a fresh installation of Ubuntu 24.04, I installed DEB Firefox from APT by following Mozilla's instructions from here. But I noticed that it was secretly replaced with Snap Firefox. I was able to verify this by checking the About Firefox page. This is the third time I noticed this.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

They have been doing this for a while.

Would recommend you to stick to MX,Mint or if you care only about stability and not Updates debian.

[–] shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah they've been doing that for a while

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I suggest Mint or straight Debian. I prefer Mint for anything graphical, Debian for headless

[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

Why use Mint when Mx exists.

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[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Not a secret, but annoying as hell. I usually replace it with a Flatpak and uninstall Snap.

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[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Have you correctly set your apt preferences? I didn't have any issues anymore since I've done that.

[–] sourov@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm sure that I've set the apt preferences according to Mozilla's article. I'll have to wait and see until a new update arrives to Firefox.

[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 94 points 2 days ago (7 children)

They started doing that in a couple of years back. Saw quite a bit of backlash in the Linux news media at the time.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago

That snap shit was so bad it made me switch to Arch.

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[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 65 points 2 days ago (15 children)
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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not really a secret

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Welcome to 2020, where Debian is once again your trusted distro.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Always was.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 64 points 2 days ago

It is one of the reasons many people turn away from Ubuntu.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yes. That was the last straw for me. I switched to debian stable, and haven't looked back since

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[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Solve the problem. Drop ubunutu

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[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 days ago (9 children)
[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But it's not obvious either. When I say 'apt install firefox', specially after adding their repository to sources.list, I'd expect to get a .deb from mozilla. Silently overriding my commands rubs me in a very wrong way.

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[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 days ago

Definitely not you, they absolutely do this with snaps and have for a while. This was the main reason I stopped using Ubuntu.

[–] TxTechnician@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I battled that for about a year and then ditched Debian based diatros altogether.

OpenSUSE ftw

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago

This isn't Debian's fault! It's purely an Ubuntu/Canonical problem. Debian's only apt by default, no snap.

[–] Noble_bacon@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

You could have gone pure Debian. There are no snap shenanigans over there :)

OpenSuse is also a great pick tho!

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yup. They also did this with Docker, and it broke my setup (and was a bitch to debug).

This was a couple of years ago, and I haven't used Ubuntu unless absolutely necessary (and then usually in a container).

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Docker in a snap is too meta for me.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 19 points 2 days ago (17 children)

This is why i switched to Debian. It's 99% of Ubuntu, without the crap.

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[–] phar@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (16 children)

At this point, why is anyone using Ubuntu for desktop? You have soooo many options

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago

Jesus Christ this is Windows-tier insane computing behaviour from Ubuntu. Fuck Ubuntu.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wasn’t that one of the main critiques of snap/ubuntu/canonical a few years ago already?

Among my personal dislike for its shade of purple, that has been my primary reason to not recommend ubuntu for a while, at least.

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