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did they seed back tho ?
this post was submitted on 06 Feb 2025
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Meta did not immediately respond to Ars' request for comment and has maintained throughout the litigation that AI training on LibGen was "fair use."
When I upload a single half century old photo to Wikipedia, I have to fill out a relatively complicated form proving that it meets "fair use" standards. Internet Archive got legally fucked for allowing people to read their book scans without restriction for a while. And now these absolute cunts have the gall to defer to "fair use"! I really wonder if the same authors and publishing houses who sued IA will do anything about this.
See, Meta is rich and US laws don't seem to apply to American oligarchs.
well the problem here is these laws have no teeth other than fines….
if you’re very rich, a fine is just a cover charge… and cheaper than doing it legally anyways.
That aside, there exist other charges such as jail time however long or short and penalties as a percentage of assets (such as in some Nordic countries)
Remember when Aaron Swartz tried to do something similar and received multiple life sentences
What Swartz did was not even close. What he did was absolutely fair use. He downloaded shit from JSTOR while at MIT which is fine because MIT allows students and employees to access JSTOR. There was no evidence that he shared anything.
His real crime is threatening profits of a corporation...
MIT is forever disgraced for their conduct and should be stripped of their tax exempt status.
And was intimidated so bad by the legal system he killed himself.
And they probably never reseeded it afterwards either, the inconsiderate prats
This doesn’t mean that Meta denies using shadow libraries, its argument is that using such data to train its LLM models constitutes fair use under U.S. copyright law.
Oh wow, I'm very much looking forward to this argument... "We believe pirating the copyrighted commercial works of others en masse to develop our own commercial product constitutes fair use... China bad!"
Of course they didn't seed. Fucking leeches.
They were leeches without the torrenting.
“Plaintiffs do not plead a single instance in which any part of any book was, in fact, downloaded by a third party from Meta via torrent, much less that Plaintiffs’ books were somehow distributed by Meta,” the company writes.
Another reason to hate Meta, now they're scummy leechers even though they could afford the bandwidth to seed back
Capitalists aren't in the business of sharing.
Parasite's entire MO is to never give back.
Downloading and seeding are very legally different.
If they don't respect copyright I don't respect it either
We just need to wait until copyright regulations get killed... Right?
Right?
Right...?
Surely they would...
Copyright lobby begs to differ. 😂
My Mullvad account begs to differ. And it makes my banker happy!
And they should pay for every book they stole :)
I don't usually like Meta, but here they used that data to produce open weights models available to the public. That sort of thing is what piracy is for so I support it.
That's a lot of Far Side books.