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[–] ech@lemm.ee 110 points 11 months ago (1 children)

5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that's already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?

[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

That paragraph is part of the new terms and conditions document they released.

[–] Geert@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

OP completely ignoring 5.0.1

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well they banned me for saying I don't like ads and called it harassment. They have no idea what they are doing and are not fit to be admins of anything.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless you provide the exact text you were banned for, I'll be having my doubts.

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

https://lemmy.world/comment/3536316

https://lemmy.world/comment/3535459

https://lemmy.world/comment/3531009

Another kind of funny thing is that this is on Lemmy.ml. "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts."

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Literally Reddit 2.0, but with a ~~F~~OSS coat of paint.

Lmao, what a shithole.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even after moving here FROM Reddit, I can't stand the Redditors here

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Hexbear makes for a very nice chill place, although myself I like lemmygrad and have stuck with them for quite a while.

Lemmygrad is good only if you are an outright pinko.

[–] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol that's a very subtle strikethrough

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago
[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Redditors gonna Reddit

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

What were the old rules?

[–] InternetTubes@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, this is the least of its problems, but it certainly hints at them: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/554307/Just-wanted-a-warning-Lemmy-World-is-perhaps-worse-than-reddit

Basically, they don't even follow the examples they set in their Terms of Service and will not only ban but purge your entire comment account on a whim because they didn't like the criticism they said they were open to on a post stating that "users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World." There's no doubt, they were pretty clear they considered the criticism "disagreeing with the terms of service".

Create your user on another instance and save yourself the surprise of encountering admins who abuse their power on a whim. That can be your entire account history down the drain, and the number of comments or the age of the account won't matter to them.

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

This is exactly what I experienced when I was part of their top moderator and ban discussion discord channels. They would regularly ban people for little to no reason and then laugh about it and then realize they need to come up with reasons after the fact. This is also how they deal with defederation. They had defederated an instance more than once prior to having any concrete reasons to do so. They operate on gut feeling and disregard their own rules and ToS on the regular.

Not even Reddit is so unprofessional.

[–] InternetTubes@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm really getting the feeling they are just trying to bury it and ignore it. I was having trouble accessing the modlog, but when I was able to, ~~they seemed to have gone through the effort to eliminate a lot of the entries, which included my account purge, ban, and ban reason~~ it actually does show up if you search for it explicitly. ApparentlyThey still haven't even bothered to answer the ticket I put up on tickets.mastodon.world, maybe I'll add a screenshot to that later to show the ticket status and the time it has spent as unanswered. No admin has replied to me directly, and the closest I've seen any admin reply on the issue is to criticize the kbin.social instance as reliable because of the criticism they get on them.

The real problem is this is being done in bad faith, and if that's their core drive, then the only thing they'll do in the future is make-up better sounding excuses to cover their asses.

[–] Jok3r@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Isn't the modlog federated to all instances and impossible to delete?

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I shouldn't be surprised that the primary motivating factor of administrators and power mods is to have and abuse power of users. Lemmy just feels like a failed experiment at this point.

The only thing left here is unoriginal memes. Which can be amusing, but I don't think it is enough for Lemmy to survive on long term.

[–] InternetTubes@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Still, just because an experiment doesn't have the ideal results doesn't mean it doesn't get us closer. Unfortunately, if people are going to trust the server with the best marketing instead looking into issues like this, it pretty much makes it impossible to move on because bad faith actors who are best at lying and cutthroat tactics will be the ones to prevail over people questioning what you are telling them without reading the mountains of evidence you are using to back your claims.

The rot definitely seems too close to the core with lemmy.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Interesting you only have a problem with this after you got kicked out. Certainly no reason it could be exaggerated or straight up untrue. 🤔

[–] Jok3r@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

Even his co-moderator from his sciencefiction community called him toxic. I'm sure there's more to this

[–] CookieJarObserver@ani.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Knowing the admins there they will still ban you for anything you say against their political views...

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Against their political view that racial bigotry discrimination is bad? I sure hope so.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well they clearly don't like me saying "From the river to the sea."

So are they really against racial bigotry and discrimination?

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