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[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

People are celebrating too early. The gap has closed, but pp is still in the lead with most polls and the gap has not been close for very long.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 hours ago

Little Peepee's only shot was to get his election before the theory of a Trump presidency became the reality of a Trump presidency.

Now that that's not possible and every bit of that orange shit-stains bullshit is reflecting on him, not only has he gone relatively silent, but most of the Maple MAGA fuckwits have shut up as well.

With every day that Conservatives are kept wallowing in their reflection of the U.S. Republican party, they're chances of a majority government fall further and further down. I'm cautiously optimistic that even if it's too late to come back or too large a lead for the Liberals to make up, that at least we'll fall into Minority Government range where Peepee won't be able to get the worst of his agenda accomplished.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

America: Uniting the world by becoming the common enemy everyone else unites to fight.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 hours ago

Maybe try a position of standing for something instead of empty slogans that everything is awful here.

Pollievre barely stood for Canada the last few weeks and spent all his time politicking instead of standing united to the biggest threat to Canada in generations.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 27 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Whatever the new slogan is going to be ... it'll be about hating someone or hating a group of people

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 22 points 13 hours ago

VERB THE NOUN

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The new one is β€œStop the drugs”

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 hours ago

Which sounds a little like "Trump is right actually" to me. I hope the fence-sitters can hear it too.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just waiting for Cocaine Carney. You just know it's coming.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 27 points 14 hours ago

Maybe if he had an actual platform and an actual plan that's not based entirely on undoing what Trudeau did...

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 24 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

God, I hope he is actually in trouble. I saw that Nanos still has Cons in a massive lead with them at 42, Libs at 26, and NDP at 17 (I'm assuming the other 15 are Bloc/Green). Praying that it's outdated data and that once the Libs have a new leader the gap will get closer.

I cannot imagine the state of Canada if we have PP and Trump at the same time.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The polls are all starting to show the Liberals gaining on the Conservatives, they're just showing the trend starting at different times. Ipsos, Nanos, and the others are even showing the rate of change being similar to the EKOS polls (the most recent of which have the Libs and Cons in a statistical tie), just starting several weeks later.

There's enough runway to make this interesring, and enough Trump to keep the trends going.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I recently read an article where Conservative strategists, speaking anonymously, worried that Poilievre won't be able to find another message fast enough before the election. If they're telling that kind of thing to the press then they've got to be worried.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They can say whatever they want to the press, I'm not getting my hopes up until we have an ABC government warming the seats of parliament during the throne speech. I'm a US-Can dual citizen so I've already faced one heartbreaking election. I'm not willing to let both my countries slip to fascists.

Plus, with the foreign interference probe + PP refusing to get security clearance, I don't doubt the Conservatives have some dirty tricks left in their bag.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

with the foreign interference probe + PP refusing to get security clearance

This needs to be hammered on all day every day. Why does he not want that clearance? What is he hiding?

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Libs, NDP and Green just need to unify for this election cycle. It's a strategic move they have to make. Can they do that, run as a single ballot?

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

It will never happen. The NDP and the Liberals are just not allies, and will not get out of each others way, no matter how much anyone else would like them to.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You mean a coalition government?

Or you mean unifying on the ballot? Because I fundamentally disagree with that, I do not want a 2 party system like we have in the states.

Keep an eye on smartvoting.ca for information on vote splitting in your riding and how to prevent it. They already have it up and running for the Ontario election, with the Federal info coming soon (assuming as soon as the elections are announced).

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

The Best way to prevent vote splitting is for the parties splitting the vote to get out of the way like the left did in France. In some ridings it will be the NDP and Greens, in others it will be the Liberals and Greens, in others the Liberals and NDP, doesn't matter, if they're truly serious about not wanting the Conservatives in power because they're a danger to our country then country comes before party.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

No no, I certainly do NOT want a 2 party system. But if the other parties could guide people to the idea of strategic voting via some sort of official but temporary alliance ... that's the idea. Something, anything we can do to prevent fragmentation which would let the CPC rise up through a divided middle.

FPTP (First Past the Post) is so, so broken.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I think legally it might be collusion if they do that before forming government, so I don't actually think that'd ever happen. At most they would not run party candidates in strategic ridings, but that's also iffy. Again, keep an eye on that website, I think currently it's our best bet in staying informed about the vote splitting.

And I agree about FPTP. I still have a grudge against the Liberals for promising to abolish that in 2015 and then reneging on it.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Are we really at the point where people think that political parties cooperating would be illegal collusion

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm not a legal expert, hence the "I think". That's just what I've been told from my educators, specifically at the federal level and the campaign finance laws around it. I'm more than happy to be corrected.

I know provinces choose to not run candidates in riding they believe are disadvantageous in order to give the other center-left candidates a chance. But provincial election laws are dictated by the provincial entities.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

And I agree about FPTP. I still have a grudge against the Liberals for promising to abolish that in 2015 and then reneging on it.

Agreed, it's my number 1 reason I would never, ever have voted for Trudeau -- didn't vote for him thee first term either as I suspected he would renege. (Reason number 2: he also reneged on his promise to reign in CSE and CSIS for domestic spying and privacy invasions).

If there isn't an organized strategic voting campaign nationwide, I may have to bite the bullet and vote Liberal this time though, if Carney is the leader, since the percentages seem to be leaning to them being the only way to prevent a hard right-wing shift here in Canada.