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[–] iham32@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

KMart has some ridiculously stupid takes on things in general. This is one of many.

[–] panamaquina@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

obviously by "real basketball people" he's saying black.

[–] biinroii01@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

no way in hell is kyrie better than luka

[–] Large_Mango@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I bet Luka is better at speaking english than Kenyon

[–] peroper7@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Luka is the most productive and consistent player on his team, Kyrie is impossible to guard.

They’re both generational-type talents, don’t need to detract from one to uplift the other. This isn’t productive basketball conversation, just throwing shit at the wall to piss off casuals

[–] desirox@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Example number 1000 why just because you play doesn’t mean you know hoops. There’s a reason so few players make good GMs

[–] tidho@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lets pretend Trump said the opposite... wonder how folks would react and what they'd suggest was being said.

[–] holaprobando123@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I bet I know what this idiot means by "real basketball people"

[–] TupacAmuru88@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with K-mart. Line up the Mavs 1v1, Uncle Drew flames all them dudes. Outside of that tho Luka is better

[–] domdomburg@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Kmart is one of the dumbest and most unlikable nba players ever. Combine the Morris twins into one person and you end up with Kenyon the idiot Martin. He was dirty as shit too.

[–] Icy-Needleworker-6@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Incontrovertible proof that glasses do not make you say smart things

[–] ChadPowers200@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He’s really sleeping on the fact Luka is 6’7 if Kyrie misses one shot he may not get the ball back.

[–] The-Pharcyde@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

There’s no one that more biased towards flashy players than nba players themselves. Most of them/ alot of them are awful evaluators.

[–] RatLord445@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Gilbert’s podcast is the funniest shit ever its like a parody of a parody of what basketball discourse is like

[–] Familiar_Loss3136@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

There is an obvious consumer base for this content; somebody is going to produce it. Why not these nice fellows

They Can’t stand to see a white man prosper

[–] headphone-candy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, he’s racist

[–] steamliner88@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I remember two Kenyon Martins: the one on the recieving end of two page spreads in SLAM way back when and the full blown idiot who whined about Lin stealing his culture by having braids while having a Chinese take out menu as a cool tatoo himself.

[–] Hafslo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone knows Kyrie is great in spurts. He’s unreliable generally so his greatness doesn’t matter over a season or playoff push

[–] Zeppelanoid@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The same Kenyon Martin that got bodies by Jeremy Lin?

[–] Sweatytubesock@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Real ones know y’all

[–] lolvalue@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I mean if Kyrie had Jimmy Butler's work ethic he'd quite possibly be better, but if you aren't there mentally I don't care how skilled you are.

[–] KingOfWeTheNorth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care if Jason Kidd says Luka isn't as good as Kyrie. Hell, I don't care if Richard Jefferson says Luka isn't as good as Kyrie. BUT KENYON MARTIN?! Maaaaaaannnn, come on. You can't say nothing!

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[–] Saucy_Totchie@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Known racist, Kenyon Martin, thinks Kryie is better than Luka? That tracks.

[–] capitalistsanta@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Luka is already one of the most skilled all around offensive players ever. He is a threat from 40 feet out to shoot and make it, he is an isolation threat walking the ball down to the mid-range, in the post up, on catch and shoots, on straight drives, and he can play the point guard. I think at one point in the last few years he was the most efficient in isolations and post ups in the whole league, and this is at 21. Even if you look at LeBron, he wasn't doing that in both until he was about 28. Kobe and MJ weren't doing that until half way into their careers. At that young of an age of being dominate on offense like that, at a young age, you have to go back to like a Larry Bird.

[–] rudebwoy100@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Kyrie has the best isolation "skills" out of any basketball player in the nba, however, he's 6'2, skinny and not even that quick and explosive hence these dudes are overating him.

If you were to put Westbrook size and athleticism with Kyrie skill he'd be better than Jordan but he lacks that size, strength and athletic pop.

[–] 0percentwinrate@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I just watched Arenas channel yesterday> Saw them debate who's the hardest to guard among AI, Steph and Kyrie and I found it interesting Didn't know they went from the reasonable debate to this wild take in the same episode.

[–] james_randolph@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Luka ain’t better than Kyrie, if people think that they got problems. It’s not a bad thing, Luka hasn’t hit a ceiling or anything and will only get better but Kyrie when healthy is definitely better.

[–] QuestionsOnlyLeach@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What's the +/- for each when the other guy is not on the floor?

And speaking of being on the floor... You gotta be on the floor. Arguing for Kyrie is like arguing for Arvydas Sabonis... what woulda coulda shoulda.

[–] Yamato4strawhat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Guys it’s not racism it’s xenophobia 🙏

[–] grand_insom@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The funny thing about this is Luka is damn near impossible to stop 1v1. Much harder to stop than Kyrie. So literally were just talking about flashy handles and finishes.

[–] Tearz_in_rain@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Real basketball people know that two ball hogs = zero championships and that picking the best player between the two is picking the best player on a lottery team and is a strictly academic conversation that serves no purpose.

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[–] natekvng@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I Don't actually think this is that bad of a take.

There is definitely an argument to be made. Kyrie is one of the most skilled players in the NBA. I think is defense is about on par with Doncic and Luka is 6'7.

He just has the ballore and is a bigger guard to do more things. Although Luka has more he can do because of his height and passing vision, Kyrie has more ways offensively he can affects the game but is just 6'2.

[–] dead-serious@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

athletes hating nerds, a tale as old and dusty as K-Mart's opinions

[–] carbine23@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He means black people or am I crazy?

[–] JJiggy13@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not for sure that Kyrie is the best player on the team when Luka is out

[–] AdministrativeAd523@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think Luka is like a 9.6 and Kyrie is like a 9.4 is the highest rating is 10. So the margin ain’t far but with Kyrie being older and having had all his bs and injuries. I’ll put Luka over Kyrie.

[–] Karametric@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Kenyon Martin is fucking stupid. Let's not give this idiot so much attention.

[–] Disastrous-Object22@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Kenyon would you say that real eyes realize real lies?

Kenyon Martin is an idiot. He went after Lin because he dared to wear dreads, even though he has a Chinese tattoo lol.

[–] Glittering_Cod_7716@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The disrespect Luka and Jokic get for being not BLACK is insane lol. There’s 0 way if Kyrie played for OKC would he say this about SGA

[–] ZionSmashesPStars@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

kenyon marton says "im a racist"

[–] gerd50501@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Kyrie plays better defense. Ill give him that.

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