BBC being the only outlet to avoid using the loaded term 'terrorist' was solid journalism, so of course that had to go.
That said, Hamas certainly is a terrorist group by any sane definition, and so's the Israel Defense Forces.
this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2023
71 points (96.1% liked)
News
23275 readers
3519 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Help me see if I'm missing something, but I don't think they generally were avoiding using a loaded term.
I linked below a handful of examples of them describing, in their own words, acts as terror acts and even people and organizations as terrorists.
https://lemmy.world/comment/4719039
It seems to me like they've probably made sure to only use the term when a conviction or official designation has been made, but, as I understand from BBC's own words, Hamas is already in that boat, too.
Pretty sure they've been calling them a proscribed terrorist organisation for a while now.
Also, is the Baord of Deputies of British Jews willing to admit Israel's acts are war crimes, per the definition?
It's really repulsive that a news organization trying to be factual and relatively neutral is badgered into changing its speech.
I agree with the sentiment, but I don't see the facts aligning with BBC's claim of abstaining from using the label.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60322508
The level was raised to severe ... after two terror attacks late last year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55861305
At the High Court, listening to evidence about a notorious terrorist organisation, you don't expect to hear about Legoland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58281243
A terror attack might have been stopped ...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57274312
Three men who assisted the perpetrators of jihadist terrorist attacks in and around Barcelona that killed 16 people in 2017 have been jailed in Spain.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/14854818
The attacks were carried out by the terrorist group al-Qaeda.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33253598
It was the worst single terrorist atrocity on British soil.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zy7nqhv/revision/9
Terrorists are people who use violent methods, or violent threats, to achieve their demands. (Followed by a list of terrorist organizations.)
The Beeb is a big operation, with genuine humans reporting and editing 24/7/365. Things will always slip by. I appreciated the policy, is all.
Hamas kidnapped US citizens, tell me again how they aren't a terrorist group?