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I'll preface this by saying I like Desmond Bane and he is a good young player. But that max contract at this stage of his career is wild. He is nowhere near a max contract type guy. This would be akin to have given Buddy Hield a max contact after his 2018-2019 season. Obviously Bane is a bit better than that year's Hield, but production is not too far off.

2023 Bane: 21/5/4 on 48/40/83 splits

2019 Hield: 21/5/3 on 46/43/89 splits

Meanwhile Bane got a 5 year max 210 mil extension while Hield got a 4 year/90 mil contract

Any general thoughts on his contract? Am I being a bit too harsh?

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[–] nikop@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought the contract was ludicrous personally but apparently they didn't have many other options. Not only that but the guy is one of the few players in the league with a negative wingspan so even though he's 6'4" his functional length is closer to someone 6 feet tall.

[–] hostileclowns@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His wing span hasn’t stopped him from being an excellent NBA player.

[–] nikop@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excellent? Eh. He looks like he can be a solid third option on a decent team. Nowhere near max contract worthy imo.

[–] hostileclowns@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I guarantee any NBA team would’ve given him that deal if he played the way he has so format for them lol. He was one of the most dynamic and efficient 3 point shooters in the league and his ball handling has been a revelation for the Grizz for a few years now. With Ja out I really don’t think it’s insane this dude can average 25 PPG.

[–] donkey_boardz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

he’s 5 years younger, a way better defender, and you’re comparing to Hield’s contact which was signed when the cap was lower…

[–] Charlie_Wax@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't watch the Grizz much, but isn't Bane a better defender than Buddy?

Part of the equation you have to consider with these small market teams is that they're not going to attract the best FAs, so it makes sense for them to overpay to retain talent. Just a reality of not being LAL/NYK/BKN/etc.

[–] Good_NewsEveryone@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think the free agency thing is that big of a player. Any team in the Grizz situation (lots of good young talent) is more concerned with managing future luxury tax than they with expecting to ever have cap space

[–] KneelBeforeCube@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those 210 millions aren't fully guaranteed. If he gets them, it's because he has earned them, which would make his contract pretty fair then.

[–] Good_NewsEveryone@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It’s $197M guaranteed

[–] Ok_Respond7928@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Box score watcher. But seriously come on man. What did the Kings do in 2019 and what did the Grizzles do last year? Do you not think the team outcome matters in this type of conversation.

I also think people sleep on Bane as a defender because he has t-Rex arms he is really solid

[–] gosuruss@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You realize that has more to do with the team than it does them as individuals right ?

[–] Insufferable-Asshat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He’s not worth 210 million

[–] His-Dad-Sucked-Tho@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

2019 Hield 21/5/3 on 46/43/89

2015 Klay 22/3/3 on 46/44/88

[–] yungtoni@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

comparing hield to bane…

nephew alert.

[–] n0th1ng10@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Na bane is a better player, he’s more versatile but there is some merit to that comp.

[–] tbloom117@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You are not being a bit too harsh. You’re being way too harsh

[–] Both_Funny4896@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

For now its fine but it can possibly look ugly in the future depending on how he develops

[–] xpillindaass@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] McWhorter44@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

20% of your cap for a player thats pretty essential for your success is fine

[–] OddToba@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Worst for who? I feel like if I asked Desmond Bane, he’d say it’s decent.

[–] hostileclowns@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This thread is a great test of seeing who actually watches games and does a little more research outside of box score stats .

[–] RegentCupid@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He is 2 years younger than Buddy was with better offensive and defensive potential. Considering the Griz don’t have many young guys it’s better than nothing. He is already borderline Allstar level.

[–] CortezAllenAMA@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

not at all you pocket watcher

[–] Low-iq-haikou@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s a very god player. I wouldn’t call it one of the worst but I do think it is gonna be tough for Memphis to keep building when he’s making that type of money. It’s not a contract I’d want my team paying.

He and Ja are combining for $70m next year. Add JJJ and Smart and that’s over $110m. Is that a championship-level core? I don’t think so personally. As it stands they’ll be over the 2nd luxury tax threshold next year and I don’t think their roster is ready for that. They’ll have to make a lot of moves to cut costs.

[–] Good_NewsEveryone@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/memphis-grizzlies/cap/2024/

If I’m reading Spotrac right they’ll be slightly under and they have $14M club option on Kennard

[–] transizzle@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He’s gonna be awesome this year, especially with Ja out. I’d expect something like 28 ppg to start the year

[–] Punjabiveer30@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think it’s time NBA fans start using salary cap % instead of actual salary if we’re discussing a contract is an overpay or not

[–] CxEnsign@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The right comp for Bane is Klay Thompson. His performance the past couple years tracks real close to Klay at the same age, without the all-NBA accolades.

It's actually a bit unfair to Bane, as while Klay was a better pure 3 shooter, Bane is much better at putting the ball on the floor and driving to the rim. He probably won't be as limited offensively as Klay (though Klay's one dimension is pretty unreal).

If you want to nitpick, sure, Memphis could have waited another year to max him, and if he falls off a cliff they'll look silly. But no, this is not an unreasonable contract for a player of his age and caliber.