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[–] ShiftBreaker@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, he's ~~confident~~ delusional, I'll give him that.

[–] cjsc9079@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] socrates_no_flamengo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

"There's no such thing as jinxing", he added

[–] candry_shop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There is no relegation battle in Ba Sing Se

[–] kromexstylezz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ajax and lyon really have stubborn people thats crazy

[–] NotClayMerritt@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ajax and Lyon are great case studies into why football has devolved into a broken sport masquerading as bad business. The elite aren't the elite because they have some grand masters behind the scenes (some do, most don't). Majority of football clubs are run exceptionally poorly. It's a grand combination of luck, basic planning, staying the course and opportunity. Ajax wanted to make serious changes after last season and got someone who was regarded as a smart mind. Then he starts attempting to tear everything down so he could do favors for his buddies. John Textor bought Lyon and tried to run it like Clearlake did with Chelsea but without extreme investment. Their situation is exactly where Chelsea would be if it weren't for ownership ceding control to the directors they hired.

So many bad transfers happen in football because of ego, ulterior motives, vested interests, favours, an absence of planning, arrogance, panic, injuries, doing transfers just to please a rabid fan base in an age where the transaction has quickly become more popular than the actual sport. But it's made especially worse when the egos involved are too volatile and act like they know better because, well, they got in their position somehow so clearly they're the geniuses and we don't know more than them.

It's why it always kills me when people idolize managers or sporting directors. As if they're infallible human beings as opposed to flawed humans like the rest of us trying to do what their version of right is.

[–] justforkikkk@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ehh I can’t speak for Lyon but this is not really a good assessment of what has happened with us. What is true however is that everything in football is volatile and fickle as hell. A player that’s great today is horrible tomorrow or the other way around and that goes for managers, sporting directors, clubs and even leagues all the same.

It’s thinking that ‘because you’re good today, you’ll be good tomorrow’ that is the real danger here. It’s behind our problems, it’s behind Lyon’s problems, hell, it’s the reason Serie A is not the best league in the world anymore.

[–] Affectionate-Hunt217@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Could you say the same about the really elite football managers players directors too?

[–] Sixcoup@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Same thing for Lyon. Our problems aren't new, we have been at different levels of shit for almost a decade, people were happy for Aulas selling eh club, and later being kicked.

[–] Nordie27@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Sir, this is a wendys

[–] neLendirekt@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Our situation has nothing to do with Textor tho. It's Aulas.

Aulas only planned things as us being in CL. The COVID fucked us because our league stopped L1 while we were 7th. (we went in semi-final of CL beating Juve with CR7 and Man City with the same team) At that moment, we dont have money coming in, no CL, we're fucked since.

Every year having to sell our best players, having incompetent people hired that have no clue what to do with the money we have (Ponsot, Cheyrou) and they bullied the only one that knew what to do and invested well (Juninho, he wasn't perfect and did mistakes, but did many great things, the other two didn't do half of what he did in a short time).

Then Aulas having to sell because some investors left. He sold us as soon as possible without caring of the future. Textor is a clown, but we're in that position because of Aulas. I mean the good things (being known in europe, academy, stadium) but also the bad ones (being shit and having no future).

[–] GanGtoni@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Don't do it Lyon

[–] jg_lg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

well that’s just not true

[–] 95_T@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There's been plenty of people that share the same sentiment though. He's preaching to the delusional group of supporters that still think that the club isn't heading towards disaster.

[–] __L1AM__@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

3 points in 9 matches, the second to last is 2 points ahead with a game in hand. There is confidence then there is desilusion. I can't imagine lyon fans are too happy with this carefree statement.

[–] sreteep99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Weren't you guys close to relegation a few years ago? Or am i remebering it wrong? You have a good squad now!

[–] __L1AM__@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, we ended the 17-18 season 1 point clear of relegation playoff. Dire season.

Since then we've had more consistent success with European finishes, a second place and off course the title winning season.

Right now we have a good first team but some roles lack real quality or depth (or both). The shaby transfer window by our president put us in a tight spot for the conference league.

[–] FuturaFree99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Is he aware of the calendar and the game coming ?

[–] Blodyck@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The other teams around Lyon know exactly they are in a relegation battle, Lyon should accept as fast as possible.

And fuck John Textor.

[–] LondonNoodles@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That’s exactly what Gonalons (former OL player now Clermont) said after the game, he said “we know we are in the relegation battle, Lyon players now need to accept it too”

[–] ivodaniello@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lyon really missing St Etienne clashes eh

[–] coxou@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Narrator there was, in fact, a risk of relegation

[–] originalface1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Last season our owner said it was "literally impossible" for us to get relegated.

[–] Betessais@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The entertainment never stops what a guy

[–] AyyLimao42@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

"There's no way we'll get relegated."

-Every club owner before relegation.

[–] that_manolo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Foco no fogão!!!

[–] gatling_arbalest@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Denial✔️
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

[–] Never_Sm1le@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Love Maitland-Niles but his choice of clubs to play for is horrendous

[–] GingerOracle1998@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not like he's any good himself

[–] Homiealmaya@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dude probably hasn’t even seen the table. The contrast between this and Grosso’s statements show just out of touch with the situation Textor is. It would be one thing if he said he was confident in the teams abilities and that they’ll be able too avoid relegation but the way it’s worded is so arrogant and ignorant to the very real threat.

[–] Poglosaurus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Is he out of touch or does he just don't care?

[–] _Dark93@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

To think that this mf tried to buy Benfica. Luckily we are fan owned.

[–] DW_78@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

risk implies possibility, he’s just saying they’re definitely going down

[–] Tof12345@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People saying otherwise are being dramatic. Lyon will not get relegated this season.

[–] Homiealmaya@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Look at the table man, there is a very good chance we get relegated

[–] MrMerc2333@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We were supposed to bring in Julian Ward as Sporting Director, but somehow got Sven Mislintat instead.

[–] PkMnHaunter@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Let us be united in this difficult time

[–] dakrstut@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For those young uns who might not know, this is pretty a pretty wild situation, considering the fact that Lyon won Ligue 1 7 years in a row from 2002 - 2008

[–] Matt4669@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

And even then they’ve been a somewhat doesn’t team in the last few years, this is so weird

[–] Vast-Experience5133@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Botafogo is really the favorite child huh

[–] Kolo_ToureHH@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Do Lyon miss Saint Ettiene so much that they want to join them in Ligue 2?

[–] Funky_Pigeon911@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What I don't get is that this guy also owns Crystal Palace and yet they're being ran quite well at the moment. How can you be so bad with one club but decent with the other?

[–] lewiitom@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He’s not running us, he’s just a part owner. I think parish is smart enough not to give to this guy too much control lol

[–] sylsau@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don't want to sound worrying, but it reminds me of Marcelino who said he wasn't worried about OM two days before resigning...

Beyond that, he would do well to feel the sense of urgency!

[–] MHCR@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This dude owns, besides OL, Botafogo, Crystal Palace and the resurrected bones of Molenbeek.

One miss, three successes?

[–] planinsky@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I miss the good ol' Juninho & Pjanic days

[–] Rickrolled87@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

“There is no risk of relegation”

Narrator: they were relegated

[–] iicySnowflake@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lyon - Saint Étienne back on the menu 🔥

[–] CurseTheseMetalHan5@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

“The Gang Gets Relegated”