Seriously, who ever liked Mark Zuckerberg? Elon seemed likeable early on, but who thought Zuckerberg was someone to look up to? Facebook was initially a website to decide which girl was the most fuckable in your college class.
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I did when I was an early teenager, I practically worshipped Steve Jobs as well. I thought Silicon Valley was objectively bringing humanity forward into a new era of happiness and egalitarian prosperity. Then I started reading and learning not to accept what manipulative people say at face value. You know, growing up. So many people never make it to the “growing up” part.
But people liked Facebook when it initially became mainstream. And they made a movie about zuck where he was painted as some comp sci genius and great entrepreneur. That was so long ago though.
Did we watch the same movie? The whole plot was that he was making a conscious choice to rip off his friends and colleagues for his own enrichment.
I guess I don’t really remember the movie, it was that good.
Its astonishing that almost half the population of the USA continues, in every poll, to rate Donald Trump and Elon Musk favourably. And this is after Musk's triumphant angry Nazi salutes. People say that fascists are a small minority in the USA, but the polls suggest otherwise.
Dumbasses apparently are a much larger portion of the population than previously thought as well
A big part of the problem seems to be people treating political parties like sports teams. As long as their team "wins," they don't care, even if the reality is that we all lose.
The American school system is rated much more poorly than most other countries with an educational system In place... We lack proper education with critical thinking... The people who benefit from this are the same ones trying to dismantle the education system even further...
All this is amplified by the brain rot of social media and the use of them by other countries to influence a wide spectrum of a population never seen before...
Ai also makes people dumber... And less able to think for themselves
Much larger portion of the sample
How do we know this poll accurately represents what most Americans think?
How do we know this poll accurately represents what most Americans think?
You can check the methodology of the survey to see whether it has any issues:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/02/07/views-of-trump-methodology/
Thank you!!
The methodology is actually pretty good, though I don't understand why, for a computerized survey, they only chose to survey 0.0015% of the population.
I feel like they could've easily surveyed more people.
It's actually a relatively large sample size, enough to get an accurate survey, and increasing it further leads to diminishing returns in terms of improved accuracy of the result. You don't need that many people to get an accurate survey. If you play with a calculator like this one you can see that this sample size for a US population of 340 million people gets you into the region of 99% confidence with a 1.8% margin of error.
But is that sanple diverse enough to reflect the overall demographics of that total 340 million? Like accounting for geography, race, etc?
Hard to say, but their description of methodology indicates that they are trying and taking active steps to achieve that.
Fair enough! It's been a very long time since I took stats haha
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better then the highest black man, he'll empty his wallet for you.
I'm surprised Zuckerberg is more disliked than Elron. Though Zucker has done some weird shit lately taking Facebook culture right wing, he's been way less of a public pain in the ass than Musk. He's been widely known as a dislikable figure for longer though.
Zuck never cared to develop a following like Musk, so it makes sense that's there is a not broad passive level of dislike.
Not surprised to see that the intense dislike is much higher for Musk though.
That's a good point. Zucker has a higher amount of dislike vs. intense dislike.
Musk at least tried to pretend to be one of the "cool and good" billionares. Making fun tech, cool cars, the real world Tony Stark. Zuck never did.
And now Musk's fans are licking his boots with Trump for a penny to trickle down to them.
Zucker kinda somewhat tried to do that with the "metaverse" thing. He pulled it off very poorly and it was a stupid idea in the first place, though.
Musk has fanboys, Zuck doesn't
He's also already told Trump publicly what he expects from him in terms of legislation and policy, he very obviously in the 'you took the money, now do what I say' camp.
There's something ongoing, though. If Trump didn't think he needed him still, or didn't have some reason he's forced to keep him around, he'd just tell Musk to fuck offsame as how he fires appointees, doesn't follow through on other contracts and stiffs people on bills.
Evidence of systemic bootlicking right here
Musk’s numbers aren’t so bad :(
Don't worry. Soon it will be illegal to dislike Elon Musk.
He who saves his country does not violate any law.
Once your required neurolink is installed, it won’t need to be illegal.
The cool thing is, you can affect these people directly.
Don't use Meta products.
Don't use X.
Don't buy a Tesla.
Don't get Starlink.
SpaceX is a conundrum since they aren't really selling things directly to consumers, but still, for the most part here, people can vote with their wallets and their time. (Sadly they won't, but they can).
True with most things. Although facebook creates shadow profiles for everybody, through websites with the tracking pixels. It allows them to "market" toward people that don't even have registered FB accounts. Diabolical stuff
I always assumed they scraped people’s phones / address books / contacts to get info on people who never even use Facebook.
Even if all of Lemmy did this, it wouldn’t be noticeable.
I still support them... fighting.
Man that was such a stupid flash in the pan. Also you know you’re a real loser when Mark fucking Zuckerberg makes you look like a bitch.
I mean, soulless alien lizard or not, Zuks still pretty shredded
me giving an eight minute answer about how there is no creature in the karmic cycle of rebirth more deserving of contempt, devoid of the most basic essential life force that binds all other creatures on earth, wouldn't spit on if on fire, continued failure to be devoured by locusts basically single-handedly disproving the existence of a just creator, etc.
researcher: ok I'm gonna put that down as Strongly Disagree
Shouldn't have voted for them then.
"But I voted for Trump, not Musk. If only Trump knew what was going on. Yes, they are taking my farm and deporting my wife, but that's just a mistake. Okay, it wasn't a mistake, but I am ready to suffer, for my ~~king~~ president and country. Okay, that country is going down the shitter, but that's because the migrants and left sabotaged my emperor!"
not I. char broiled.
No shit
You could tell me the most awful depraved fucked up shit in human history was conducted on these people and I’d just want to see photographs to confirm they’re fucking dead.
But most of them like Trump? Fuck every single one of them.