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I used to give Google money for services (Drive and YouTube), but I've already stopped doing that because of their evil ways. This just hammers it home that much more.
Edit: The shitty part is what a cool company it used to be. And to watch it destroy itself like this is just sad.
This is my biggest complaint. They were the best way to access the sum of all human knowledge. Now I NEVER find things relevant to my search, just things that can be sold to me. Things like the “-“ character no longer work. I still get the excluded term in top results. It garbage now and everyone at google is to blame not just the executives.
I took my money from YouTube and started giving it to Kagi. 🙂👍
Honestly, this is about what I expect from Google nowadays. It's surprising when they manage to live up to the "Don't be Evil" motto they used to have.
There's a reason they got rid of that motto.
They never got rid of it though. I don't understand why people keep repeating this. See the final paragraph here: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/
They might as well have though 🙃
don't be evil and if you see something, speak up
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+whistleblower+fired
Oh really Google?
Depends on your definition of "evil", I guess.
Lol, right? Bit of a slippery slope over at the ol search and advertising factory.
It's double speak. The translation is "We are evil and if you say something about what you see, we will silence you.".
Wait, that's the government's stance also.
Are you beginning to see things more clearly now?
It helps that the rain has gone
They removed it from the main body as like, an organizing principle. and left it in only one sentence at the end. https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393
Sure, that's different to totally removing it though.
I heard several news stories stating that they had, but I guess that's my fault for believing the news. I just assumed they would get something right eventually.
Expect this and they killing some of their products.
It's-not-corruption-if-it's-law approach?
It’s a form of regulatory capture and is taught is all business schools.
At this point what they learn in business schools is the full bestiary of legal and illegal tricks and scams you can use to extract money from us cattle and contribute as little as possible to the upkeep :(
Regulatory capture seems about on par for Google these days. I suppose I'll be switching back to OnePlus for Android devices; that'll be about it for Google stuff in my home.
Suddenly, I miss the old days of Android. I suppose it's back to CyanogenMod or whatever it is these days
GrapheneOS
Direct replacement for Cyanogen would be Lineage. There are dozens of decent ROMs to try though.
I still opted for iOS in the end. As much shit as Apple pulls, they did 6 year software updates when only flagship Androids got 3 and they aren't generally trying to dominate the Internet.
Nobody outside a select few know the real dirt inside the proprietary code that Apple puts out. Open source is the only truth that you can see for yourself. Apple is the antithesis of open source.
Open source is only as useful as the contributors and reviewers. Finding things after the fact helps noone.
People need to stop revering open source as the solution to humanity's problems and treat it as a useful tool, nothing more.
You are correct it is only a tool, sadly it is the only viable tool tho
You’re right.
I like to peruse code and have read a lot of it from the sources that make it available. It’s not always the languages I know but even then I can get the idea of what most of it is doing. There are some code bases that are too big for any one person to fully comprehend. That said, I think the only way for one to be confident in open source is to read it yourself which is a problem for most as coding knowledge is not common combine with the size of some.
So it’s always going to be trusting trust for most people. The fact that it is open source and makes available the code for review limits malice to a much greater degree than proprietary ever will.
I know, but as a software engineer, I just hate reading through other people's code and I don't have time for tinkering anymore. Apple's ecosystem is convenient for me and that matters more now. Used to care more of course.
Running it now it is great.
Lineage
Everyone seems to be missing an obvious detail- there was a related and even more dangerous piece of legislation reintroduced recently. It's known as the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA), and that would have immense impacts on Google's (specifically, YouTube's) operations.
This is an example of them trying to claim the other bill isn't needed, because they can self-regulate. You'll notice how this also purports to protect kids, but in a way that is much easier and cheaper for Google to implement.
Its deeply worrying development seeing Google came out with the narrative saying they are against mandated age verification while secretly saying they do support it atleast that what I get from this article.