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Gagged and grief stricken, yet defiant: Australian Ecologists and climate scientists reveal devastating culture of suppression (www.abc.net.au)
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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I love that humanity is trying to treat climate change like it handles any other problem, through denial, deceit, and minimization, as if it were another human on human issue like genocide, assassination, or the like that we could message the messaging of.

Climate change is a fact though. It can't be bribed, tossed into a black site, redacted, bargained with, or threatened into playing ball with the global capitalist machine.

It's just a reality of physics, the inevitable reaction to our careless actions we were warned about by the scientists we systematically discredited, ignored, and buried over decades. Our reverse terraforming of this planet to be less hospitable to human life is a blackhole of indifference to any and all of our pathetic human con-man fuckery, and it warms my heart to see the reality of our own habitat basically telling our infinitely entitled, self-important species "no."

I have sympathy for all the non-human life that is and will continue to suffer it, but us humans? Unless you've been getting arrested trying to sabatage petrochemical pipelines, you and I got nothing to say. We're fucked, and we deserve to be fucked.

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I kind of agree with your premise, but there's a huge caveat here: climate change will impact different people around the world on different time frames. Generally, the poorest people, the ones that least contributed to the problem, will be the first ones to suffer the most. This creates a perverse incentive for wealthy people to treat this like you mentioned and minimize the public's understanding of the coming impacts, because it helps keep their gravy trains going for a while longer.

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I agree. I'm not a huge fan of the idea of there being some sort of cosmic natural order in the universe, but if there is, we have fucked it sideways. And it's not like we don't have the capacity and intellect as a species to solve the problem of climate change. We're just too lazy and greedy to actually do it.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is that humans will have "no" problem adapting to climate change. The issue is everything else, nature can not just turn the AC up/down.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

A pretty dramatic exaggeration to say humans will have no problem. Climate change causes many problems beyond direct heat exposure. And even in that specific example, the vast majority of the world, particularly in the hottest climates, does not have AC.

But yes, the natural world will be even worse affected.

[–] neanderthal@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So this means things are more dire than we might think?

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago

Why do you think they are not releasing the Climate impact report?

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

In Australia, yes. I also suspect there's a motivation to not document any evidence that might hold us (or more, our government) responsible for the role that we've played in climate change. Not just the fact that we sell coal and gas to everyone and our per capita emissions are fucking whacked, but also the role we've played in holding up climate action.

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago

Surprise pikachu the country that sells coal to the world wants to suppress information about the 'side effects' of its key export product. Seriously though, Australia is only wealthy because of the abundance of resources within our country - that's why we often refer to ourselves as the lucky country. I live in a state where the majority of the black coal is (the one that you burn for power rather than steel). We get mining royalties from the companies that extract the coal and sell it. When the price of coal went up a few years ago our state government raised mining royalties in line with this. The fossil fuel industry has been attacking our state government ever since. There have been attack ads playing on TV about this for almost 3 years now. These fuckers don't play around and will fight tooth and nail to maintain their power.