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Per one tech forum this week: “Google has quietly installed an app on all Android devices called ‘Android System SafetyCore’. It claims to be a ‘security’ application, but whilst running in the background, it collects call logs, contacts, location, your microphone, and much more making this application ‘spyware’ and a HUGE privacy concern. It is strongly advised to uninstall this program if you can. To do this, navigate to 'Settings’ > 'Apps’, then delete the application.”

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[–] teohhanhui@lemmy.world 5 points 37 minutes ago (2 children)
[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 13 minutes ago

So is this really just a local AI model? Or is it something bigger? My S25 Ultra has the app but it hasn't used any battery or data.

[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee -1 points 18 minutes ago

And what exactly does that have to do with GrapheneOS?

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 55 minutes ago

laughs in GrapheneOS

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

More information: It's been rolling out to Android 9+ users since November 2024 as a high priority update. Some users are reporting it installs when on battery and off wifi, unlike most apps.

App description on Play store: SafetyCore is a Google system service for Android 9+ devices. It provides the underlying technology for features like the upcoming Sensitive Content Warnings feature in Google Messages that helps users protect themselves when receiving potentially unwanted content. While SafetyCore started rolling out last year, the Sensitive Content Warnings feature in Google Messages is a separate, optional feature and will begin its gradual rollout in 2025. The processing for the Sensitive Content Warnings feature is done on-device and all of the images or specific results and warnings are private to the user.

Description by google Sensitive Content Warnings is an optional feature that blurs images that may contain nudity before viewing, and then prompts with a “speed bump” that contains help-finding resources and options, including to view the content. When the feature is enabled, and an image that may contain nudity is about to be sent or forwarded, it also provides a speed bump to remind users of the risks of sending nude imagery and preventing accidental shares. - https://9to5google.com/android-safetycore-app-what-is-it/

So looks like something that sends pictures from your messages (at least initially) to Google for an AI to check whether they're "sensitive". The app is 44mb, so too small to contain a useful ai and I don't think this could happen on-phone, so it must require sending your on-phone data to Google?

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

The countdown to Android's slow and painful death is already ticking for a while.

It has become over-engineered and no longer appealing from a developer's viewpoint.

I still write code for Android because my customers need it - will be needing for a while - but I've stopped writng code for Apple's i-things and I research alternatives for Android. Rolling my own environment with FOSS components on top of Raspbian looks feasible already. On robots and automation, I already use it.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks. Just uninstalled. What a cunts

[–] static@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago

I uninstalled it, and a couple of days later, it reappeared on my phone.

[–] Denalduh@lemmy.world 30 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't have it in my app drawer but once I went to this link, it showed as installed. I un-installed it ASAP.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.safetycore&hl=en-US

[–] danciestlobster@lemm.ee 12 points 5 hours ago

I also reported it as hostile and inappropriate. I am sure Google will do fuck all with that report but I enjoy being petty sometimes

[–] woobat@midwest.social 5 points 6 hours ago

thank you for posting this. it's not yet installed on my phone for some reason, but i will be checking this page every couple days to make sure it stays that way.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 26 points 7 hours ago

People don't seem to understand the risks presented by normalizing client-side scanning on closed source devices. Think about how image recognition works. It scans image content locally and matches to keywords or tags, describing the person, objects, emotions, and other characteristics. Even the rudimentary open-source model on an immich deployment on a Raspberry Pi can process thousands of images and make all the contents searchable with alarming speed and accuracy.

So once similar image analysis is done on a phone locally, and pre-encryption, it is trivial for Apple or Google to use that for whatever purposes their use terms allow. Forget the iCloud encryption backdoor. The big tech players can already scan content on your device pre-encryption.

And just because someone does a traffic analysis of the process itself (safety core or mediaanalysisd or whatever) and shows it doesn't directly phone home, doesn't mean it is safe. The entire OS is closed source, and it needs only to backchannel small amounts of data in order to fuck you over.

Remember the original justification for clientside scanning from Apple was "detecting CSAM". Well they backed away from that line of thinking but they kept all the client side scanning in iOS and Mac OS. It would be trivial for them to flag many other types of content and furnish that data to governments or third parties.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

Fuck these cunt

[–] Whippygoatcream@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Hope they like all my dick pics

[–] EndofLife@feddit.org 7 points 7 hours ago

Don't worry they won't!

/Burn

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

Thanks for bringing this up, first I've heard of it. Not present on my GrapheneOS pixel, present on stock.

I suppose I should encourage pixel owners to switch from stock to graphene, I know which decide I rather spend time using. GrapheneOS one of course.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm traumatized by trying to use banking apps on lineage.. don't think I'll risk it until I get a backup phone

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well then I hope they like seeing my butthole.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

My older brother swipes through your phone's photos without asking, so I put some colonoscopy pictures in there. He hasn't tried to look at photos on my phone since.

Oh Google what have you done to yourself.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I just un-installed it

Anyone know what Android System Intelligence does? Should that be un-installed as well?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 4 hours ago

You can safely uninstall System Intelligence if you don't need it. My phone has worked fine without it in the past year.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ they're like bed bugs

Is it too much to ask that my phone only contain the shit that makes it work, and not anything else?

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