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Iceland’s prime minister and women across the island nation are on strike to push for an end to unequal pay and gender-based violence.

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Since then there have been several partial-day strikes, most recently in 2018, with women walking off the job in the early afternoon, symbolizing the time of day when women, on average, stop earning compared to men.

That's pretty clever

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Although I like the solidarity. Isn't she the one who can enact policies to combat pay disparity?

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd imagine not unilaterally; she'd still need parliamentary action.

[–] tissek@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 years ago

And for the private sector to do their part.

[–] Takios@feddit.de 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She's a prime minister, not an empress.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Her first order of business while prime Ministering should have been to make herself an empress. Classic mistake

[–] 9thSun@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

Rookie mistake

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Unequal pay sure, but how the hell is a strike supposed to stop violence against women? That's not an economic concept that can be impacted by withholding labor. It's a fine goal I just don't see how a strike helps it get accomplished.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 66 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It brings attention to the issue. Not everything is intended to have a direct impact on problems.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I really don't feel like attention/awareness is the problem. People are very aware of various problems plaquing the world... I personally don't need more awareness, what I want to see is actionable items.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People don't create actionable items unless they're confronted with the idea that they need to make them.

Many people, like yourself, are waiting for something "actionable" before they do anything. The problem is, everyone is waiting for someone else to do something and thus doing nothing themselves. That's where visibility comes in. Clearly not enough is being done, so people need to get off their ass and do something, instead of waiting for someone else to do it for them.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Many people, like yourself, are waiting for something “actionable” before they do anything.

What do you mean by that. Firstly, you don't know me at all. Second, do you know what an actionable item is? Literally, what do you want 'people like myself' today, right now to do that is just going to fix everything? I'll stand for 'people like me' and say, we're ready to 'get off our ass and do something', but what EXACTLY is that going to be? If you're going to get on your soap box and tell me and 'people like me' off, have a plan.

Because as far as I see, you're just grand standing.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago

Yeah awareness is definitely needed for some issues but violence against women doesn't seem like one of those issues. I'm pretty confident everyone is aware of it and no one is a fan except for the people doing it. I don't think those kinds of people will care about a strike. If anything I'm guessing a woman in an abusive relationship is more likely to experience violence by participating in this than not.

[–] rengoku2@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago

If even PM herself can't do shit, then nobody will do shit.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think you might need to read A Modest Proposal.

The thing is, giving women the ability to extricate themselves from bad relationships where they explicitly have to rely on the income of someone else to take care of themselves and their offspring is a big reason why violence against women persists.

When we're talking "violence against women" we don't mean women randomly attacked in the street, more often than not, we mean women attacked by their partners, who are mostly men.

The impact of being able to financially extricate yourself from a violent partner is huge and is driven by economics. It's literally why Lenin considered women an equal part of the Communist struggle. It's why Russia under the USSR initially legalized abortion in 1920. This would unfortunately change when Stalin came to power, but at the outset, it was understood that women having economic independence was a huge part of allowing them to become equals to men in society, and allowing them to escape abusive men.

While A Modest Proposal shouldn't be taken with any seriousness, it's jokey demeanor makes very good points about the same ideas. There are all kinds of things you can do economically to incentivize reduced violence towards women.

The idea that higher pay wouldn't have an impact on reducing violence towards women seems a bit short-sighted.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I appreciate the thoughtful response. That's the way to disagree with someone without being a dick about it. Good comment.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I'm not familiar with Icelandic law. Is it legal to pay someone less based on their gender?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If only the prime minister of Iceland was in some kind of position of authority where she could do something to address gender inequality in Iceland.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago

did you read the article?

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So what happens when the prime minister goes on strike? Who leads the country?

[–] Zellith@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Doesnt answer your question, however I did a tiny bit of googling. The prime minister is appointed by the president under the Constitution of Iceland, Section II Article 17, and chairs the Cabinet of Iceland. So maybe the president will appoint someone else from the cabinet as an acting prime minister?

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

That sounds like a scab hahahahah

[–] IdealShrew@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

isn't Iceland the most gender equal and progressive country?

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

And apparently this is why. Good for these women for standing up for what they deserve. I hope others around the world will see this.

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 13 points 2 years ago

It is but gender inequality is still endemic across society. Put this way, I'd rather be a woman in Iceland than say Afghanistan, but I'd still rather be a man in every single country.

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

I accidentally ended up in the middle of this, and there was genuinely a huge turnout. It was good to see, and quite uplifting.

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago

that should do it

[–] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl -3 points 2 years ago

Good! Now let's extend this movement to other countries as well. I want to see the impact women make in the workforce and what critical parts of the economy will collapse if women collectively decide to stop taking shit.

Naturally, parts of the economy that won't come to a grinding halt need more female representation.

We need equal pay, equal opportunities, equal responsibility and equal representation.

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