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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

I held on to my iPhone 4S as long as I could. Now I have a 12 "mini". I know I'm in the minority, though, because I don't spend all day staring at my phone. I do like having all the features, but I use them only occasionally--say, once a week or less. I prefer my internet use on my gaming computer with a big monitor, and a full-size keyboard.

I expect I'll end up with a huge phone for my next one, that I don't need, just to keep access to the functionality. Like everything else in life, there's always compromises to be made.

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago

I was small phone enjoyer until my Sony Z3 Compact. I really liked it, but after it died, I tried bigger phones and I couldn't go back.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I believe I saw where you hear that people want small phones, they make them, and then they sell poorly. So, to the company at least, it doesn’t look like people want the smaller devices.

Now, I saw some comments in here about the smaller devices usually being less robust than their normal/pro counterparts, and that could also be a major reason small phones don’t sell.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Thought provoking!

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Bigger screens mean bigger and more obtrusive ads.

I'm convinced this is 90% of the reason right here.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I miss the times when I found 5" phones big. Now they just seem small because everything else is pushing 7"

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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I bought a pixel fold because the screen on the front is small and it opens in a wide format when I need to look at tables

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Same reason I have a Samsung Fold. 75% of the time it's a small phone for small regular tasks. When consuming media, I open up.

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[–] ray1992xd@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

There is a feature called single hand mode on most keyboards. Makes it something like this. I do however agree that small phones are nice.Screenshot of smartphone keyboard in single hand mode.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

My default setting. Big hands =\

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I don't want a small phone or a slide out keyboards.

I want :
Replaceable battery.
Non glass back.
3.5 jack.

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Answering single handed on me iPhone 12 mini on latest iOS 😇

It is a great small phone!

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

That was discontinued after two iterations. Was going to switch to ios just for their mini range after years of Android, then saw that they got rid of small phones as well. Like, what would I gain by switching ecosystems if I know that the next phone is still going to be huge?

BTW, I settled for an S24, which is considered "small" now but still way too big, but at least Samsung has a decent one handed mode that doesn't hide half of your screen like ios or stock android but instead decreases the whole screen to bearable sizes:

Still feels like the damn clown mask meme, where, after years of increasing phone sizes, they now add a stupid software feature to virtually decrease screen size to remain usable.

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 185 points 1 day ago (22 children)

I want a repairable phone. A phone where I can replace the battery

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 day ago (10 children)

And screen. And buttons.

I also want something that's supported more than 3 years so there's a point to repairing it. Ideally, support should come from the community so it can be infinite as long as someone is willing to do the work.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Why can't we go back to small phones?

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think this is correlation, not causation, as this was also when touch screens started being made

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don’t understand why so many people here keep saying that it’s too hard to make a small phone when all these companies literally make watches with 5G connections…

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (8 children)

They always lean a little too hard into making the small one the "budget" phone and end up gimping it into something nobody wants, and yet they still don't make it cost attractive.

Compared to the SomePhone Pro, the SomePhone Mini has:

  • 6GB of RAM rather than 8. (I mean, okay, what do I need that much RAM for?)
  • 128GB onboard storage rather than 512GB (Those chips are the same footprint so that wasn't done for miniaturization, but I don't store a lot on my phone so ok)
  • No SD card slot. (I suppose you could argue that IS for miniaturization but it's still a kick in the pants)
  • 1080p display rather than 4k. (fine, the PPI is still finer than my eyes)
  • 3100mAh battery instead of 3600 (You know the reduced resolution on the display will probably make up for that anyway)
  • No NFC (really?)
  • No fast charging (fucking sigh)
  • No wireless charging (pegwarmer says what?)
  • 5.9 inch 9:21 display (so it's 89% the size of the Pro model anyway?)
  • a laptop grade VGA camera (you're actively trying to make this product fail, aren't you?)
  • Locked bootloader, locked carrier (because of course)
  • $899 instead of $949 MSRP (Okay just stop saying words and drown yourself in the septic tank)
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[–] tal@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Why can't we go back to small phones?

The iPhone SE is dead,

Is there any chance that you chose to lock yourself into a very small walled garden with a vendor who might make decisions about product that you might not agree with?

Apple is the only one making iOS phones, and Apple doesn't seem interested in small devices anymore, so that door is shut.

Right. You stick yourself in that garden, you are gambling that the vendor is going to come out with the product that you want.

There are still a few niche companies working on smaller devices, like Unihertz, but those phones almost always have low-end hardware and limited software support.

Well, size is kind of a constraint on what hardware you can put in the thing.

If what you mean by "limited software support" is "apps are going to be optimized for the bulk of users and will probably feel small if the great bulk of users are using larger screens", well...I mean, yeah.

The iPhone 3 SE you have:

4.7-inch (diagonal) widescreen LCD Multi‑Touch display with IPS technology

1334-by-750-pixel resolution at 326 ppi

Memory 4 GB LPDDR4X RAM

https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2022&nRamMin=8000&fDisplayInchesMax=5.5

Let's grab one from that list:

https://www.gsmarena.com/ulefone_armor_mini_20t_pro-13298.php

Size 4.7 inches, 53.3 cm2 (~63.1% screen-to-body ratio)

Same screen size as your phone.

Resolution 720 x 1600 pixels, 20:9 ratio (~373 ppi density)

30 pixels narrower, but 266 pixels taller than your phone.

8GB RAM

Twice the memory of your phone.

Can buy online in the US:

https://www.amazon.com/Ulefone-Armor-Mini-20T-Pro/dp/B0DJ74TQXT

And it was released October 2024, so it's pretty new.

Now, you may not be able to get an iOS phone that fits your hardware wants, but them's the breaks when you go with a platform that has only a single vendor making hardware for it.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

That phone isn't actually small. It has a small screen, but it's 25mm thick and weighs 300g.

[–] Sustolic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

RAM is a horrible indication of phone performance imo.

The A15 chip in the iPhone 3 SE absolutely destroys the Dimensity 6300 chip in the 8GB phone you linked

A lot of people had liked iPhone because for the longest time android phones were not able to compete in the cpu/gpu space especially around the time of the iPhone 11.

Although now at the high end android phones are much closer together in performance so it’s more about what features you care about more between the phones.

[–] iarigby@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

“walled garden” - how many 5.4” android phones can you name from the current decade?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I agree, it's like the author is saying "why this public-market company I trusted blindly is not doing what I (minority) want?"

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[–] Habarug@lemm.ee 105 points 1 day ago (46 children)

Well, I can't speak for everyone else, but I can't go back because they don't sell any small phones.

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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (7 children)

How many times is this going to be regurgitated? The question has been well and truly answered.

We don’t buy them.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That, and small phones on the Android side are often nerfed beyond reason, like a bottom-of-the-barrel Mediatek SoC with low RAM and shit storage option instead of the bigger model's Snapdragon and quality storage, or shit cameras, or garbage screen resolution, etc etc.

There is something to be said about the larger variant having more room for better cameras, but outside of that, the nerfing feels almost intentional.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

There were benefits to the comically-large form factor, though. Touch keyboards worked significantly better with larger screens,

No, the tiny soft-keyboard on my old Galaxy Xcover is significantly easier to type than any modern phone. Less movement of the finger, easier targeting of the buttons. I'm always surprised anew, each time i dust it off and play with it.

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