Real fans complain about everything lmao he's offside look at the picture
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this might be controversial, but i think goals like this should stand…
Do they not draw the lines on the feet?
just make it feet or lower body at most, what is this nonsense
Is it his head that’s offside? Not sure on the rules now.
Love this technology. Look how accurate it is. The only issue is I have in situations like this is that I just don't understand how an advantage is gained to an unfair degree. Of course you can't have everything and whilst the rules state that this is offside then I'm happy for it to be called, but for the sake of the game I would like to see decisions like this have a different ruling. It's a pretty hard road to navigate.
You can score a goal with your shoulder or head, so it was accurately called judging by the depiction
It feels like VAR and refereeing in Europe are better than in some top leagues, the amount of shitty mistakes even using that same fucking technology in La Liga & EPL is unbelievable.
They don't use the same technology. This screenshot is from the semi-automated VAR system used by the Champions League. Not sure about La Liga, but the Premier League don't use the semi-automated system, it's completely manual.
Then they need to adopt that system. We've already seen too many crucial mistakes by idiots controlling VAR (ex Liverpool disallowed goal) that cost teams points.
Ridiculous rules
Don’t get it his hand are onside.
I can't fathom that this is an offsides, it's cunt-hairs. But both sides will argue forever.
Modern offside is shit. Truly shit. There’s no substantial or measurable advantage here.
the offside line does not make sense with the line on the field, bad prospective here.
Inches man
Remember when we gave great offensive play the advantage in a game that favors natural quality densive play?
Looking at it from the actual replay, I was certain it could not have been offside. But this shows it as offside so nothing to complain about actually…
Bullshit. All of it. That’s a fraction of a second difference right there and probably less than an inch… what about the right moment when the kicker passed the ball? Could have been a fraction of a second before or after and it would change everything too.. I mean, I get the positive aspect of the VAR and all but man.. calling an offside that close is just BS.
Why? He is over the line. Saying calling offside that close is BS, is BS…
Okay hear me out…the head and other body parts shouldn’t count unless they are the part that controls the ball. His head is offside but his feet aren’t which is what he uses and controls the ball with.
They made a 3D computar rendered image! So thats 100% reliable because technology and pixels!
Do they count the head? Thats interesting
As the laws of the game stand it is offside, however I do feel like it should be measured from the feet. I know you can score with your head, but there is always going to be a certain amount of lean while sprinting. Arms/shoulders shouldn’t come into play because a defender on the half turn is going to have their arm out for balance as they’re turning (shown in the photo). I’d prefer feet as the point of measure, but from the current rules it is offside. Fine margins at such high speed though.
it should be measured from the feet
This. They should look at feet only, that seems like the most fair. And to add to that I'd say one foot of the attacker would have to be behind a defender's foot in its entirety for it to be offside, not just a toe.
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Offsides should be judged by foot position only, change my mind.
Given the current technology, Offsides should be determined by the part of the body that touches the ball first. If a player uses the foot, that’s the mark. If the player uses the shoulder measure from that. Then you get away from a head being offsides but the feet are on and the first touch was the foot (no offside advantage with the body part that actually mattered).
The call is obviously a correct one. My personal belief is that the laws of the game in conjunction with the technology we have should change to allow these plays to stand and count as goal. It’s frustrating to see such offsides like this stand when the reality is the attacker isn’t gaining an actual advantage with the 3 inches of space
My argument is that offsides should be determined by one’s center of gravity and not extremities.
What happens if a player was leaning back with their foot stretched forward to control the ball?
Would still go down to the center of gravity. If we’re standing next to each other, shoulder to shoulder, and I reach with my leg to make a play on the ball, I’m not creating an unfair advantage on the defender. Defender has the ability to reach with their leg and intercept as well.
Fair
FWIW I’m in agreement - for me something needs to change as I don’t think the above should be offside, no matter how technically offside it is. As you say it’s about creating an unfair advantage, which there isn’t in the above for me (and I realise the then issue of subjectivity, but then that’s where centre of gravity would be interesting).
Yep. At some point I feel like the rule will be adjusted but maybe I’m just wrong haha. Most ppl seem to prefer the black and white VAR decisions.
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I think offside should be checked on the foot positions only.
Too much head
Typical offside that on the screen it’s questionable, but then you see this and it’s a no brainer.
WTF?
I think this is a bit much 😬 Im not saying the call is ‘wrong’ but this surgical precision we are trying to extract out of the sport is taking away a lot of the magic, in my opinion. Realistically, how big of an advantage does Vini gain from his head being 5cm offside?
I think it should be the feet tbh but that may be an unpopular opinion
Just make it feet for fuck sake
VARcelona strikes again, thanks Laporta!
Offside based on the rules but surely we can start doing a center of mass vs center of mass type thing, no?
Like does Vinicious get an advantage having his head beyond the guys knee? Not really, his momentum was already beating the Braga players. Someone with an outstretched leg to poke in a cross should be commended for the effort of getting to the ball while the bulk of their body is behind the defender, not punished.
I dunno how the current tech works but don't most players where wear monitor type kit anyway, surely that can house a device that counts as their centere of mass.
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What are you waffeling about, half his head is off.
Shouldn’t the line be drawn at the head which would make the offside much clearer?
Please find the Maguire goal, where they show the offside line, it comes when VAR checks for the penalty. I am sure that he was offside. How can Vavros arm play him on? I don't get it ?
Oh no what an unfair advantage, vini would have never beaten him without being offside.
Hate it
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