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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] Newchair@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I thought this would be a post complaining about the usablility of windows as a desktop, not the one thing windows does right...

[–] moonmeow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

honestly i don't know what you did to mess up a windows install like that, but i agree overall that linux is easier. However there are quirks that can arise for a new user that will eat time or seem daunting.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Windows has improved a lot. I was committed to using Linux before windows 95 and that era was a complete shit show. They couldn't even connect to the internet, play cds or other media without third party software and Windows crashed if you looked at it the wrong way. People thought it was the hottest shit ever. Even after the move to the NT kernel it was a shitshow of instability and massive security flaws for years. I think I could daily drive modern windows if there was no alternative. They have come a long way with stability and a lot of FOSS software is ported.

Windows still benefits a lot from network effects which makes it desirable for some people for the same reason they use Xcrement and Meta. It doesn't bother me what OS other people use anymore than what they do in their bedrooms or churches. Let's not act vegan over an operating system.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

skill issue

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“Linux can’t play games”

That is relative to one's personal opinions/tastes (If you REALLY want to be a "competitive sweaty tryhard" then the above is true) but as for me...? I'm 100% fine in "retrogaming" in my orange pi zero 3 and call it a "legit linux gaming experience".

As the old say goes... "If I wanted to see graphics... I'd go outside." :^)

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I think they should be able to choose their OS. If they choose something you see as shitty, so be it.

[–] sir_whocampsalot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Can not tell if this is satire or not because while Windows has its fair share of issues, I've yet to encounter something that I couldn't fix. Every time I've installed windows it just worked. People keep whining about windows being just absolute dogshit and then there's me who has never understood that shit because windows just keeps working like it should. And I install windows frequently enough to know/notice if anything is wrong. Like how can't you get steam to start? You must be doing sth wrong... Idk man i just can't relate like at all... Wish I could help instead.

(okay i lied where i said "I've yet to encounter something that I couldn't fix". There's this annoying little shit bug that recently cropped up where my 2 desktop icons in the top left get moved when i move a file to for example the middle of my desktop. One of 3 things happens: it puts it where i wanted it to in the middle OR it puts it IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER which moves my icons down one OR it puts it BETWEEN the two icons i have there. AND best of all IT DOESN'T EVEN STAY THERE it like is there for just a second and then it flicks to wherever i wanted it in the first place, leaving my icons MOVED from where they originally were GOD I HATE THIS SO MUCH oh and I also hate how windows handles file transfers of any kind.)

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Both windows and macos have gone down the drain. Or linux just caught up.

[–] fau57@leminal.space 2 points 10 months ago

I straight up think they did it because they want everyone on co-pilot.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 2 points 3 months ago

I have a Windows partition on my workstation. It serves really two purposes, some manufacturers issue firmware upgrades that you can only install from Windows and games. Recently that partition got scribbled and I had to re-install. The most recent Windows ISO would NOT install for me from a USB, I HAD to burn a double sided DVD to get it to install. Then within two weeks of installation it runs into an update that keeps failing. Gotta fucking love it. And this is Win10, I am not ever upgrading to Win11.

[–] SRo@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago
[–] dashietm@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hehe, installed both nobara and windows on my brothers pc. Nobara installed without issues, immediately usable with wifi. Windows didn't recognize drives at first, had to reflash the iso, i assume that was an iso issue not necessarily windows but you never know. Then, 0 internet, no wifi drivers :) Hotspot with phone and cable in order to make the pc have basic functionality, the true windows experience.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I love Nobara and will keep using it for my Linux needs but you must have got a borked .iso cause I've built windows machines for all of my friends from scratch and never once had an issue like that.

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Using windows 11 is your first mistake, its ab uneven number windows, everyone knows the uneven number ones are bad. Or was it the even number ones? I dunno, windows 10 is better than 11 either way.

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[–] mub@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Easy of use and general look and feel have always been less than ideal on windows. The real advantage of windows over Linux is hardware support. And don't say it all just works, because it does not.

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