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[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 101 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The real travisty here is The Verge trying to install Chrome instead of Firefox

[–] riesendulli@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 11 months ago

The Verge is the IGN of the techblogs.

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[–] Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works 64 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Too bad they don’t have an option for “I just don’t want to use Edge”. Especially with how hard Microsoft is pushing it, that just makes me want to use it less.

[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 43 points 11 months ago

With it being a free product, it must be very valuable for them to have you use it.

Just remember that when using edge or chrome.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't want to use edge, but I do have to admit between Chrome and Edge, Edge has become the less evil. It respects the search and ad tracking opt out settings on your account, and doesn't disable or cripple ad blockers. The "strict" account wide setting on Edge is so strict that sites will pop up asking you disable ad blockers even if you don't have one.

This VS the current state of Chrome which undermines ad blocking, and forces you to opt out of ad tracking on every install of Chrome across all devices... Oh.. But they're going to enable ip masquing now.. Because they don't need your ip with all the identifiers they are injecting into your browser.

I hate MS... But the don't be evil company has done a 180 in a rapid fashion over the last couple of years and sadly.. MS is now the lesser of two evils.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I was choosing between chrome and edge, I'd choose edge.

But I use Firefox like all nerds should.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yep, I mainly use firefox but when I do need a chromium flavor, I would sooner go to edge than chrome itself.

[–] misanthropy@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Literally the reason I don't use it is how hard they push it. It's actually a great browser if you work in an office 365 environment

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

Microsoft sounding like an overly attached partner who cannot accept that the relationship is already over

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where’s the option for: “I don’t want to use edge because it shoves polls in my face”

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some people pay extra for that sort of thing.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They should add a pop-up with a 'Why not Firefox?' question.

[–] Drusenija@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only if it also comes with a picture of Zoidberg.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, that seems about right, after all everything will evolve into grab, foxes included.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago (5 children)
[–] Senex@reddthat.com 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've been playing with Mint on an old computer and I gotta say Linux is not as difficult as people think. All the programs I use work very well on Mint. When I eventually buy a new computer I'm gonna go completely Linux.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

That's great!

[–] Kena@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love Linux but people like you who won’t shut the fuck up about it make me hate it.

[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seeing the horde of Linux evangelists here at Lemmy has been reminding me of seeing a similar push toward it back in the mid 00s.

Back then I tried probably 5 or 6 different Linux variants.

And after trying them all, I went right back to Windows.

Why?

Because I realized that all I wanted was for my OS to disappear, and years of using Windows meant that I wanted something that looked, felt, and acted like Windows. So any version of Linux that might replace it for me was going to have to do that while also adding some positives to the exchange to more-than-cancel-out the awkward differences.

As I said, I tried several, for a few months each, really trying to give them a fair shake.

In the end, I found that whatever one I liked best was the one I liked best because it was the least awkward to use...but even that one was just a worse experience than just using Windows.

So for an average user like me, who really doesn't have any problem with Windows...why switch?

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So for an average user like me, who really doesn’t have any problem with Windows…why switch?

Well, because Micro$oft can't accept that people don't want to use their garbage browser and desperately does everything like a crazy ex to get you back to use Micro$oft Edge. They also collect all of your data and sell it to whoever pays the most and. On a Windows system, you don't control the computer, the computer controls you. And they don't allow you to uninstall any of their spyware, if you uninstall Edge and perform a Windows update, guess what's gonna be back on your computer. Microsoft Edge is like a virus, it does everything to prevent you from getting rid of it. Edge, Windows or any Microsoft product is just corporate data mining malware.
Linux is the exact opposite of that, it's a tool meant to empower users to take back their freedom and take back the control over their computers. It allows you to do everything the way you want to, not the way a mega corporation wants you to do it. Data collection practically non-existent, just like corporate influence. You are the one in charge of your computer, you decide what it does, you decide which programs are installed and what services you choose what services you want to use. Linux gives you freedom, whereas Windows gives you ads for Candy Crush in your start menu and a browser that ~~behaves like~~ is malware.

Back then I tried probably 5 or 6 different Linux variants.

Linux from 15-20 years ago can't be compared to modern Linux. Take another shot at it, try out modern distributions like Linux Mint or Fedora, I promise you, it's much much better than in the 00s.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But...I don't want to use Edge...so I don't.

I really don't give a shit about the data they might be collecting on me, since everyone else is too, and I have yet to see any horrible effects of that.

Windows does what I ask it to do, and I don't feel that it's forcing me to use it in ways I don't want to. I primarily use my computer for surfing the Internet, watching YouTube, doing a bit of online shopping, and playing two games. I guess I don't really see how switching to Linux could make my experience doing that better in any significant way...and certainly not to any degree that might justify educating myself in how to choose, download, install, set up, and use any of the different options.

My last go-round with Linux ended when I realized that I was just trying distro after distro (is that the right term?) basically looking for something that looked, sounded, and smelled like Windows, and eventually I realized that all I was doing was trying a bunch of shit that wasn't Windows and trying to turn it into Windows. Everything felt like a crappy workaround, tasks that should've been simple and intuitive weren't, and while, yes, Linux did seem to have an android program to anything I wanted to replace, in every case it just seemed like "Discount Store Syndrome", where everything was the slightly worse knock off version of the real thing, only different for the sake of being "not Windows".

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I really don’t give a shit about the data they might be collecting on me, since everyone else is too, and I have yet to see any horrible effects of that.

To that I can only reply with the following quote: “Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” ― Edward Snowden (the guy who literally risked his life in order to inform the public about the fucked up shit that was and still is going on at the NSA, a real hero)

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Is thirstily the right adverb? I thought that meant sexily

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thirsty works here. It means you really want it, not that anyone really wants you.

[–] sab@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I imagine you just broke bernieecclestoned's heart after having been called thirsty and misinterpreting it for years

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

Scumbagily would be better.

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe the Verge was secretly giving MS a compliment?

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Choco install chrome Scoop install chrome

Apt install chrome

Etc Etc Etc

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Google Chrome download in Microsoft’s Edge web browser?

How many times will the company try to steer me away?

The pop-ups are nearly two years old, and the injected ads are from earlier this year.

I cannot believe how many stories we’ve written about the shit Microsoft has pulled to steer you away from Chrome.

Even today, the company still won’t always respect your choice of default browser, though that may finally be changing in the EU.

Sadly the poll doesn’t include an “I’m boycotting Edge because you don’t respect me as a user” option.


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