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'Mickey 17' Sinks at Box Office to $18.5 Million Opening Weekend (www.thewrap.com)

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Overall weekend totals plunge 60% from last year as the absence of a "Dune: Part Two"-level hit is felt

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[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 47 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's barely afternoon on Saturday as I read this - I don't get how they can decide it bombed already. Feels like someone's trying to make it bomb.

[+] Stovetop@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

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[–] THB@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Honestly had little interest in this but you just sold me on it

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago

Never heard of this movie but I too am now interested!

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe a little bit, but everything after the beginning of the movie seemed to take place in more of a monarchy situation where roles and resources are allocated directly by the ship/colony leadership and the only apparent economy was the black markets for drugs and extra rations.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The book is pretty clear on themes, and fascism is only distinguished from a truly absolute monarchy in the respects you mention by their laws of succession.

Fascism, btw, per Mussolini and Gentile, is the merger of state and corporation. At at least a small scale it will absolutely try to function without a market and pay its workers directly with necessities while using the withholding of such as both punishment and means of persecution.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They said capitalism, not fascism, I can see how the movie is being critical of fascism, but the primary setting seems distinctly un-capitalist to me.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Same end goal.

Just an FYI: the book also describes the fate of a colony world called Galt that gets genocided and consumed by a hyper-capitalist's clone army. The logic is simple. He wants more clones, and the best source of more biomatter fit for making clones is human bodies. He's also been told all his life that he's a superior life form, so what use is anyone "lesser?" It doesn't matter that the Galtists consider themselves "rugged individualists", they are less thans and therefore useless beyond making his numbers go up.

The book and setting is not shy about criticizing capitalism's commodification of human life and disregard for suffering. It's the entire point of how Expendables are treated, lol.

I don't doubt that a movie had less time to make some of the themes more obvious, but they'd have had to completely remove the concept for it not to be clear.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

the book also describes the fate of a colony world called Galt that gets genocided and consumed by a hyper-capitalist’s clone army

If this was the explanation given for why "multiples" became taboo, I think they must have replaced that with the explanation that someone used it as a way to have an alibi to get away with smaller scale serial killing.

commodification of human life and disregard for suffering

This definitely comes through as the central theme of the movie, the idea of objectification in its various forms, how it's internalized or goes unnoticed. And there is a connection to capitalism; the central problems of the movie are caused by sadistic villains who are in charge because they are absurdly rich. But that aspect of it seemed like less of a critique and more of a tropey backdrop and plot device (ie. the loan shark who's too rich to care about being paid back and just wants a pretense to make snuff films). To me for something to be primarily described as a critique of capitalism, it would have to spend more time actually considering capitalism and how it works, and this movie isn't really about that imo.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ticket sales pre-orders.

If Friday's pre-sales = x% final sales, and you know pre-sales for Sat/Sun, you can roughly predict the weekend.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

Yep. Literally decades of sales data is used to predict various aspects of a films revenue.

Not just weekend sales but weekly drop off can be accurately predicted.

They often know how a movie will be perceived well before it hits theaters and use that determine how much to spend on promoting it.

[–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

They release these on Saturday or early Sunday pretty frequently, projected from presales, previews, and Friday #s. They can be a little off but they're usually pretty close.

[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

LOL this is no Dune: Part Two blockbuster. Stop pretending that its supposed to be one.

Ruffalo does a solid, loathsome Trump.

[–] silly_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought every actor was great and the story is solid. It's just too long.

[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

yeah I wish the satire could have been more witty and less bludgeony

[–] ecvanalog@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

This is pretty much exactly where I would exact an arty, anticapitalist lark of a movie to land. Anyone thinking this would do much more than $40m globally this weekend was probably fooling themselves.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It makes fun of all the Space obsessed billionaires, so I bet they have been making sure it bombs

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

There doesn't need to be a conspiracy for the average person to have bad taste

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

I thought this was a direct to video/streaming release.

Now that I know it's in theaters, I'm gonna go watch it.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago

To be honest, I didn't find it very good. I don't know about the books, but the movie makes it seem like there's something interesting about the expendables, and ends up being about something completely different, much more boring and overdone. Characters are also basically useless.

[–] BedInspector@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah the movie is not very good. Saw it the other day.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a fairly horrible movie.

The brain scan and brain upload mechanic doesn't account for perfect recall of deaths (no ability to brain scan after death), the mickeys should only have memories up to their last brain scan, so no mickey should have any memories of death.

It's like one really long SNL skit, over the top political commentary with a very minor scifi flavor.

[–] Contemporarium@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I was wondering how they were planning on doing the “memory after death” as that seemed like a major thing that would need to be accounted for that I was hoping would have some cool explanation.

Oh well. Not a big fan of Pattinson anyways. Thanks for the honest review! :)

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

It was a 2.5 hour slog to get through some very ham fisted political commentary and philosophical ideas about the worth of a clone with an "original" still alive. Moon and Star Trek cover the ideas way better and in less time.