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Summary

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has criticized the Harris-Walz 2024 presidential campaign for playing it too "safe," saying they should have held more in-person events and town halls.

In a Politico interview, Walz—known for labeling Trump and Vance as "weird"—blamed their cautious approach partly on the abbreviated 107-day campaign timeline after Harris became the nominee in August.

Using football terminology, he said Democrats were in a "prevent defense" when "we never had anything to lose, because I don't think we were ever ahead."

While acknowledging his share of responsibility for the loss, Walz is returning to the national spotlight and didn't rule out a 2028 presidential run, saying, "I'm not saying no."

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago (13 children)

The Democrats need to embrace populism to get into office, like they did with Obama in 2008. Remember, Obama wasn't the Democratic establishment's first choice, but as Obama's movement grew, they recognized that they could ride his wave back into power. Something similar happened in 2016 with Bernie Sanders, but in that case the Democratic establishment turned away from the candidate with the rapidly growing populist movement, because his language was much too explicitly and aggressively left populist for their comfort. This was a mistake. Had the Democratic establishment embraced Bernie's movement, I don't think Trump would have been elected in 2016.

I hope by now moderate Democrats realize a Bernie Sanders presidency would have been better than the Trump presidency. Many Democrats, apparently, didn't think Bernie was a better option than Trump, that they were both equally bad options. Again, I hope moderate Democrats recognize now that that thinking was wrong. Bernie would have become more moderate once in office, just like Obama. Because Bernie, like Obama, would have listened to the experts.

That's what the Democrats need to do: wait for a populist movement to form around a candidate, ride that populist wave into office, then the experts and technocrats can take over.

That all being said, Democrats also need to ensure that the experts and the technocrats are doing their jobs properly. Part of the reason these populist movements exist is because of the failures of technocrats and experts, failure to recognize the limitations or contradictions within their ideology. The technocrats must ensure that once they are back in power they are managing the country and the economy properly, so that the largest possible number of people can thrive, otherwise they will not be able to hold on to power.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Small correction: The DNC isn't employing technocrats and experts; they're employing neoliberals concerned first and foremost with extracting money from the poor and putting it in the hands of the rich. If they were concerned with improving people's lives they'd have implemented progressive economic policy like everyone with two braincells to rub together has been telling them to.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Neoliberalism started taking over as the dominant paradigm in the 1970s, and had become firmly entrenched in academia and the political technocratic state by the 1980s. That has changed, and is continuing to change, but there was a time when the majority of experts and technocrats were neoliberals. Many still are, unfortunately, though, I think the influence of neoliberalism is declining, albeit slowly (at least too slow for my preference).

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[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago

saying they should have held more in-person events and town halls.

That’s what you mean by too safe? Do these events matter at all? Aren’t they just supporter circle jerks?

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 2 points 15 hours ago

107 days to campaign and they spent it hiding—sounds less like strategy, more like surrender. Thorough and clear article.

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[–] troed@fedia.io 8 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

I thought it was that americans were to misogynistic and racist. Incl. a whole lot of Democrats that had no problems voting for Biden but couldn't be bothered to vote Harris.

"Thank you"

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 16 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

it's everything. the democratic party since Obama was elected has been unwilling to grapple with that our populace is split between people who think racism is an ongoing aspect of the fight for liberation, people who think racism ended some time in the past like in 1864, 1920, 1950, 1970, or 1989, and people who outright engage with racist ideologies. democrats try to engage with an idyllic populace who generally means well when the actual populace is a bunch of colonizers.

our best bet for a president who can address all the problems of this political environment is basically the wokest white dude we can find. and the way tim walz is acting and behaving, he might be operating with the understanding that given bernie sanders' age, it might have to be him.

i ask everyone to do the following: pay attention to what tim walz does, but don't treat him as your savior. every liberation movement has required three figures: the violent revolutionary (think Malcolm X), the pacifist the respectability politics people are willing to engage with (think dr martin luther king jr), and the emotional/spiritual leader that soothes people who are hurting's souls (this leader usually goes unnamed because they are not looking for a position of power). you need to choose your role in our liberation movement as soon as possible and start agitating. and understand tim walz will never exit his lane of pacifist the respectability politics people are willing to engage with.

tim walz, also, for how much we love him, has blind spots and will say some ignorant shit in tho years to come. have grace and patience with him for as long as he will listen. america has a long legacy of politicians who entrench themselves in something dumb because when you have as many critics as someone in office has, the legitimate criticism tends to get buried under a mountain of unreasonable criticism.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

Liberals love to blame racism and misogyny for their own failings.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think those racist misogynists were going to vote for anything less than mass deportations.

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm talking specifically about the millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 but sat out Harris 2024.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Are these the same voters who support the Palestinian genocide? At some point we have to have the courage to stand for the right thing instead of pandering to our most cynical neighbors.

[–] troed@fedia.io 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Not voting for Harris when you voted for Biden cannot be explained by anything that has to do with Palestinians.

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[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

That prevent defense analogy works well here.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] rosco385@lemm.ee -3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I think the Harris-Walz campaign was just a touch too genocide-y rather than "safe"

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago
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