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BIOS Update questions (alien.top)

submitted 11 months ago by dermernerk21@alien.top to c/framework@hardware.watch

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Hi, im a future FW16 owner and im just curious to hear how BIOS updates are performed. Ive had it recently where my zephyrus g14 updates its BIOS through windows update which is irritating at best and dangerous at worst.

Does Framework participate in pushing BIOS updates through windows update?

Also i read the BIOS update instructions for Linux and Windows. It seems like windows is an executable and linux you should update with the EFI shell. Im more comfortable with the efi shell due to work experience so my question is: do i need to update with the executable on windows when i can just do it in the efi shell anyway? I assume this is just a measure to make it easier for non-power users but i wanna be on the safe side when it comes time to update the bios.

Thanks for the help! : )

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[–] thewunderbar@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

For what it's worth, in my day job we deploy bios updates via windows update to our fleet of about 175 computers and have for years and have never once run into an issue.

Bios updates are not the scary thing people like to make them out to be.

[–] sdflkjeroi342@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bios updates are ~~not~~ no longer the scary thing people like to make them out to be.

FTFY

[–] avu3@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

bios updating the hba (array controller) on your primary sql server during a 30 min maintenance window at 2am is still a bit never wracking.

But yeah, pushing out bios updates to desktops/laptops has become a near-non issue. That combined with the decline in device cost and the rise in backup and cloud-based apps make replacing a died-during-update machine a lot less onerous.

[–] dermernerk21@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I would still prefer to be in control of what my device is doing. I've also had machines at work fail in the middle of a bios update, i didnt really care then because it was one of the many computers we have and it was just replaced but if i had spent multiple thousands of dollars on it i would be pretty crushed.

[–] TheDinosaurAstronaut@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

BIOS updates via Windows Update are, as far I as understand, completely industry standard. Most BIOS updates are focused on security risks, and they shouldn't be skipped due to perceived inconvenience. The people rolling them out probably know more than you or I do. I would strongly suspect that there is a higher statistical risk of wrecking your computer or introducing malware by running a BIOS .exe than by using Windows Update.