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Summary

Former vice presidential nominee Tim Walz criticized Trump for economic chaos while taking personal responsibility for the situation during an MSNBC interview.

"We wouldn't be in this mess if we'd have won the election — and we didn't," Walz told Chris Hayes. He called Trump the "worst possible business executive" and praised the Wall Street Journal's editorial criticizing Trump's tariff war.

Walz emphasized Democrats must offer something better, not just criticize Trump. Recently, he acknowledged a leadership void in the Democratic Party and admitted spending too much time combatting Trump's false claims about immigrants.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, I mean the worst Walz did personally was maybe his performance against JD, but that's pretty small compared to a lot of other errors that can be attributed to the collective campaign decisions and DNC as a whole. And yes, Biden. And really, 2020 and 2016. Actually fuck it, compared to all the butterfly effect possibilities, Walz is such a small part of why we're in this mess, lol. I still want the 2000 supreme court to support the Florida recount that actually says Gore won.

Still, kudos for taking responsibility.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't place any of it on Walz, this is all about Harris/Biden. He did well in his debate, he was obviously more progressive than Harris and was pretty much just reined in.

I think if the ticket had been reversed, they'd have won. The center wasn't ready for a black woman to start with, and when she was just parroting the same party line re: Gaza, and cozying up to fucking Cheney's, for crying out loud, it turned off the progressives that might have voted.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

I blame the DNC and Harris far more than him, he was a relatively minor politician recruited by them pretty late in the game. Everyone was worried he'd be too boring, but despite the background character designation, he still came across better than Harris.

[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know what? Yes we are in this mess - BECAUSE of you. You didn't call on Trump for him admitting that he allowed the election to be rigged in his favor. You didn't hold up the election for it to be truly verified. You just allowed Harris to verify it because you wanted to try and make yourselves look good that you didn't cause an insurrection for brownie points. You didn't work hard enough to change the course of your campaign with Harris because you decided to centralize it on a narcissistic whore like Trump.

Aside from 71+ million uneducated fucking morons that call themselves American, you have a part of fault in this. The "at least we're not Trump" play didn't work in 2016, what made you think it'd fucking work in 2024? You didn't build off of any of the momentum from Biden and you didn't dare try to say or do things differently than what Biden did.

While it is not entirely your fault, it is partially your fault too. You better fucking have something better by 2026 or this country mind as well be called the United States of Amerinazis if it isn't already classified that.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Walz was the VP pick, he had no choice but to toe the line with the top-ot-the-ticket (Harris and the DNC), who sidelined Walz and prevented him from promoting many of the progressive policies that Walz passionately supports. As VP you can't just come out in opposition to the runming Presidents platform, that was one of the major problems of the campaign.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, I really don't like the Democrats and don't agree with Waltz 100% at all, but it's clear he is at least a genuine person caught up in a shit organisation.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I'm not American. but it always seems to me like the Democrats immediately tie themselves in knots trying to meet the Republicans halfway, when everyone knows they have no intention of budging an inch.

It's like if two people share a meal, one person goes "Should we split this bill 50/50" and the other one just says "No fuck you, you pay 100%." Then the first person, instead of telling them to fuck off, says "Okay I'll pay 75%, how's that?" and the other one just refuses until they eventually pay about 5%, then complain about it for the next year and tell they first person that they still owe them for the 5% they paid.

Then the first person invites them for dinner again.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Clearly he’s a Russian plant. Everyone knows we should only blame voters and never the politicians who lost.

[–] YamahaRevstar@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I just want a candidate to call Republicans out on their racist, fascist shit and to help the middle class. Why is that so hard to come by?

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