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[–] sjmarf@sh.itjust.works 92 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Worth noting is that what counts as an "active user" has changed between now and then. During the Reddit API exodus, an "active user" was a user who had posted or commented in the past month. Now, it includes users who have voted. If the 54k MAU record was set using the first algorithm, it is likely that the MAU using the new algorithm (which includes voting) would have been much higher.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 8 points 5 hours ago

Hmm. I wonder if the server i just launched was number 600 😁😁🔥😁

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I guess some people get off on go team go, but to me looking at market share is very corporate thinking. If lemmy is better than reddit (which I think it is) it will just naturally grow, which is great. Whet I'm cheering for is taking social media away from the business world by doing it better for free - whether that turns out to be lemmy or some other software.

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 50 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Slow and steady wins the race. Also helps to not be shit. looking at reddit.

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[–] FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee 27 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

It is really awesome here. Like the good ol internet days.

[–] Huschke@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Agreed. I hope it doesn't become so popular that it turns to shit.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Our most precious features is you'll never have to. If a community turns to shit, they just get defederated. If you can't find a server that defederates them, you can host it yourself. Your groups will be smaller, and you'll lose something in the transition, but what you have is what you'll put up with.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago

I flipping love Lemmy.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 143 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

The growth in 2025 has been staggering, ngl. And this is the kind of thing which converts from a trickle to a tsunami very quickly. It never happens with one shock. But a consistent amount of enshittification shocks. Reddit's desperate struggle for profitability practically ensures those will keep happening, so this is all inevitable at this point. The only thing that is uncertain is whether digg can recapture the fleeing masses who are not cognizant of the dangers of corporate vc-backed enshittification yet, like bluesky did to Twitter.

[–] deedan06_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah. Reddit is currently enshitifying in overdrive. They used to just do dumb features nobody wants, but now they are actively harming the base. The entire Luigi over-moderation this is just bad, and it feels like they want the formerly leftist site to go full maga now. and even if I do have to use it, the website often tends to not function properly these days, with the site constantly reloading, or voting functions to be broken. This is the year of lemmy.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 41 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

The user growth we're seeomg could result in an overwhelming flood of users at anytime. Which is why people should consider supporting the lemmy devs and instance admins either financially or through contributions so that the lemmy software and infrastructure is ready to handle the growth.

[–] cabinet_sanchez@midwest.social 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

And then in 5-10 years the users will destroy it like everything else on the Internet...

Seriously, though, make me wrong - because this kind of model is so new to me, I don't know, is there anything different about this that will resist it going the way of things that were once good and eventually weren't, like Craigslist and Reddit?

Obviously a lot of Reddit sucks due to how it's run, but let's not overlook that part of its downfall, like with Craigslist, is the users as it grew having no respect for the model. I've been on my way out since well before the API exodus (and yet I was addicted and too lazy until now, that's on me). People posting whatever they want wherever they want and having very little understanding of nuance in language ("oddly satisfying" doesn't just mean "I like this"), misusing downvoting (I know I'm yelling at clouds, but that was where Reddit was doomed from the start to become an echo chamber, and I didn't know if Lemmy is different in that respect - do votes determine visibility here?), moderators becoming more power hungry, and I'm sorry if this is mean, but the userbase trending younger steering content much more to "mah crush, aitah?," fake stories for "points," and I feel the general populace there being more gullible. Not to mention the same comments being made over and over, and I'm not talking about bots, I'm talking about constant "this is the way" and "username checks out."

I've seen so many actual discussions here already that are full of real passion and good points even when they're heated, some lovely user created and has posted around a really through socialist reading list. I've only seen "this is the way" once. Reddit is lazy one-word answers and downvotes. How do we encourage this and discourage that?

Anyway, I rant. This place is great now and will only get better as it grows, but I hope this model will in some way resist that downfall. But I've come to accept that nothing on the Internet is permanent. And also that people are gonna people and if I don't like that, it's on me to leave.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 5 hours ago

You bring up some good points and I do believe that the model that Lemmy use can insulate it from a lot of those issues.

People posting whatever they want wherever they want and having very little understanding of nuance in language I dont think this would be a huge problem, mods can remove unwanted content and instances can decide what type of users they want to accept. As for misusing downvotes I think that issue never has ever mattered and the difference between reddit and lemmy is we have a open source algorithm to decide how content is served. If anyone can think of a better way to server content they're free to put that in.

moderators becoming more power hungry This is an issue on every platform but Lemmy is more insulated against it than reddit for two reasons. First is that we can have the same community name shared across servers. On reddit once someone gets the catchy community name they can camp it forever. On Lemmy you can just make the community somewhere else with the same name. Second, each instance can decide how it wants to moderate its communities on Lemmy ML they are OK with power hungry mods but on other instances its frowned upon. On reddit its ignored completely.

One thing that makes Lemmy better is that its made by the users for the users. We have the code, we have the protocol its built on. This means we can have Lemmy tailored to however we want. We are not at the whim of a massive company that only cares about profit. If I have an idea for a feature i can goto the github and suggest it, better yet if I could program it I could help build that feature. If I dont like a change that is made by the lemmy devs I can fork the project and remove the change and still interact with the rest of lemmy.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The difference is the way it is run. You got it. And if one day Midwest.social starts doing things you hate and treating it’s users like crap, then come on over to lemmy.world or lemmy.ca, or one if the other thousands instances.

People hosting the database are not the owners of the platform unlike Reddit. They get to tell us how we can use it just because they host the database.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I've already moved at least once and have been very happy it was as easy as it is.

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[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 54 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But a consistent amount of enshittification shocks

I think the proper term is enshittification sharts

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[–] Extras5023@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago

Let’s gooo

[–] kane@femboys.biz 44 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Makes me happy to see it, a future for a platform that is not locked by a single large player. Instead, I can have my own profile that I actually own and do not “lend”.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 6 hours ago

Yep! We come from all over.

[–] notanapple@lemm.ee 34 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

The MAU of lemmy.world is ~18,600 which is a bit greater than the combined MAU of the next 7 instances (a big help here is lemm.ee which has ~7000 MAU). This is a really healthy spread of users and it means we don't lose lemmy if the biggest instance goes down.

Compare that to Mastodon, where mastodon.social has more MAU (~372,000) than the combined MAU of the next 30 instances at least (I gave up counting). Thats not healthy for the ecosystem. Though tbf the total MAU of mastodon is ~899,000 so without mastodon.social they will still have ~527,000 but it will be very spread out.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think the distribution is fine as long as we still have nodes with good capacity. Our real issue is everyone demanding to be on the same instance because they're scared of Federation.

What I'd REALLY like to see is a Federated Resource Locator service, kinda like nameservice for a federated user.

rumba@mastodon.social is 101254684, if I move to rumba@ingrowntownail.es, I want all my followers to do that lookup and still be following me. It's great to have my settings migrate with me, but it would be bangin' to have other people linked to me to still follow me.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 10 hours ago (11 children)

I don't think it's healthy enough but certainly better than the mastodon ecosystem

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[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 18 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I think the biggest instance, lemmy.world, not being operated by the Lemmy devs is also a good health indicator - on every other Fedi service I can think of, the server run by the devs is the biggest by far.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 51 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

It's so nice to see the servers are not crashing anymore this time around like how Lemmy.world did for me a few times back when I first joined in 2023 and I remember when the only app that was available on ios was just Wefwef before Memmy and Mlem came out of testflight. Today the apps are much more developed as we now have: 6 ios apps, 10 android apps, advanced search, moderator tools, user tags, in-app video playback, baby account indicator, advanced markdown editors, crossposting, watch support, expanded customizations, content filters, fediseer integration, side by side posts, alternate sources menu, song service integration, direct messages in app, gallery view, local sub count on communities, troll buster, user theme directory, open web post in app, gestures, media bias check, alt check and personal contribution stats.

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