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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago
[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

the US-Canadian border has been one of, if not the, most peaceful borders in the entire world.

the most peaceful and mutually beneficial border on Earth.

Tell me your views are extremely America-centric without telling me.

The only way you can have those views is if you know nothing about the EU at all.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The US and Canada haven't fought since 1812. Which European border of a major super power has a longer history of being close allies?

The UK and Scotland shouldn't count because Scotland isn't a sovereign country, they are a state of the UK that has lied about retaining their sovereignty for 500 years (which is why they have to beg England for permission to even hold an independece referendum)

Spain and France shouldn't count because Spain worked with the Nazis in ww2 and wouldn't help France.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Switzerland? Apart from a bit of aerial bombing during WWII it's been a pretty peaceful border since that time Napoleon invaded.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago

I considered that, but Switzerland was under seige by fascists on 3 fronts from 1939 to 1944 (the Nazis pressured the French-Swiss border and Italian fascists pressured the Italian-Swiss border)

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The US and Canada haven’t fought since 1812. Which European border of a major super power has a longer history of being close allies?

What’s the definition of “being a close ally”? You’re using the date of Canada and USA last conflict, but for Spain and France you’re using political alignment.

I think Portugal and Spain also make a good candidate if we’re looking back only until the early 1800’s. The border itself had a few changes but they were peaceful IIRC, the last conflict was 1801?

On a separate note, the quote says has been the most peaceful and beneficial, so it’s not so much as a matter of peaceful for the longest time. Even if EU borders weren’t peaceful way back, quite a few of them are so peaceful nowadays that they barely register as existing. In terms of most beneficial, I’m not sure how to analyze that.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Quite a surprising one here: I think the Norwegian/russian border can actually match that. I believe Norway is the only country neighbouring russia that has never been invaded by them (sans WWII, where they invaded Nazi-occupied Norway and willingly left after the Axis was defeated).

I also think the Norwegian/Danish border has been conflict-free for some hundred years (to be fair, we were in a union for ≈450 years ending in 1814). We've had some skirmishes with the Swedes throughout the years, but I believe the last one was in 1814.

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[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago

"In the last 100 years"... European borders were not peaceful for that long

[–] faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

To be fair, historically speaking, Europe's borders have been all but peaceful.

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[–] muh_shroom@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Lmao, I’ve got a bullet for every magat fuck that crosses the border. Last thing they’ll hear is a tree speaking French

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it would be great to remind americans how many sniping records get broken by canadians. start making that gear domestically, if you don't already. maybe start taking out tires on trucks with american plates. just so they know how unwelcome they are, and if they want to take something across the border, it had better be a canadian getting paid to do it.

[–] AJ1@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm putting a new scope on my crossbow as we speak. Reusable ammo is an underrated perk.

I am interested in hobby archery. Can you suggest a crossbow?

[–] ReconChaznat@lemm.ee 0 points 14 hours ago
[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'll be on this side of the border lighting off freedom displays of fire works to signal every raiding party heading over.

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[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 days ago (27 children)

The problem is that there is a not-insignificant number of people that want the US to annex Canada.

In the US, about 15% of Trump voters would support annexation of Canada, even if Canada didn't want it. That's about 1 in 7.

https://vancouversun.com/news/trump-51st-state-most-americans-have-no-interest-in-canada-annex

The disturbing thing is that about 18% of Canadian Conservatives would support annexation. That's almost 1 in 5. Most of us know five Conservatives, so chances are you know someone who is essentially a traitor. I think Conservative supporters need to be aware that this is the company they keep.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/large-majority-of-canadians-reject-trumps-annexation-overtures-poll-suggests/

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I've started telling people with those views in real life to becareful, they may get treated the same way collaborators were treated in the Nazi occupied areas of Europe post war. I find it changes their demeanor pretty quickly without actually being a threat.

(I also want it to feel like a threat because it is.)

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's not a threat, it's the reality of how these things go. With most of our WW2 veterans dead, most people have neither connection to, nor appreciation of, what happens during a military occupation. They think it's a fucking joke. It most certainly isn't. The moment hostilities become inevitable, all of the people who thought it was funny to "own the libs" by publicly supporting annexation will find they are easy, identifiable targets for righteous anger, and they should best get out before they're put out. Note that the government will not have time for controlled and legally respectful deportation, and it will be aggrieved patriots who decide their fate. Crowds of angry, scared people are not gentle, and they tend to be creative in the most horrible ways.

After hostilities end, no matter how they end, these people will still not feel any comfort. If they end up on the wrong side of history, as they usually do as traitors in an occupation, their fate is grim indeed.

The bottom line is they really should reexamine their loyalties carefully and if they choose to retain treasonous loyalties they should strongly consider leaving Canada. Not sure why they would want to stay anyway, when they clearly do not offer nor deserve the respect of their fellow Canadians.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

It's not a threat, it's the reality of how these things go.

Be careful, the government might disagree. If you called a politician or CEO and told them to be careful or the public may give them the Luigi treatment or 1789 French treatment then you would most likely be arrested for threatening violence.

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