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[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So... if you own an inexpensive Alexa device, it just doesn't have the horsepower to process your requests on-device. Your basic $35 device is just a microphone and a wifi streamer (ok, it also handles buttons and fun LED light effects). The Alexa device SDK can run on a $5 ESP-32. That's how little it needs to work on-site.

Everything you say is getting sent to the cloud where it is NLP processed, parsed, then turned into command intents and matched against the devices and services you've installed. It does a match against the phrase 'slots' and returns results which are then turned into voice and played back on the speaker.

With the new LLM-based Alexa+ services, it's all on the cloud. Very little of the processing can happen on-device. If you want to use the service, don't be surprised the voice commands end up on the cloud. In most cases, it already was.

If you don't like it, look into Home Assistant. But last I checked, to keep everything local and not too laggy, you'll need a super beefy (expensive) local home server. Otherwise, it's shipping your audio bits out to the cloud as well. There's no free lunch.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn't even know this was a feature. My understanding has always been that Echo devices work as follows.

  1. Store a constant small buffer of the past few seconds of audio
  2. Locally listen for the wake word (typically "Alexa") using onboard hardware. (This is why you cannot use arbitrary wake words.)
  3. Upon hearing the wake word, send the buffer from step one along with any fresh audio to the cloud to process what was said.
  4. Act on what was said. (Turn lights on or off, play Spotify, etc.)

Unless they made some that were able to do step 3 locally entirely I don't see this as a big deal. They still have to do step 4 remotely.

Also, while they may be "always recording" they don't transmit everything. It's only so if you say "Alexaturnthelightsoff" really fast it has a better chance of getting the full sentence.

I'm not trying to defend Amazon, and I don't necessarily think this is great news or anything, but it doesn't seem like too too big of a deal unless they made a lot of devices that could parse all speech locally and I didn't know.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

It was a non advertised feature only available in the US and in English only

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

It's always been this way for the cheap speakers. They've no processing power on-board and need the cloud just to tell you the time.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

If you traveled back in time and told J. Edgar Hoover that in the future, the American public voluntarily wire-tapped themselves, he would cream his frilly pink panties.

[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Now they can hear me scream “shut the fuck up Alexa!!!!” every time she says “…by the way…” when I just want to know what time it is.

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[–] Lydia_K@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the age of techno-fascism, the people willingly pay to install the listening devices into their own homes.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago

No way! The microphones you put all over your house are listening to you? What a shocker!
If you bought these this is on you. Trash them now.

[–] impudentmortal@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How disheartening. I knew going in that there would be privacy issues but I figured for the service it was fine. I also figure my phone is always listening anyway.

As someone with limited mobility, my echo has been really nice to control my smart devices like lights and TV with just my voice.

Are there good alternatives or should I just accept things as they are?

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There aren't any immediate drop in replacements that won't require some work, but there is Home Assistant Voice - It just requires that you also have a Home Assistant server setup, which is the more labor intensive part. It's not hard, just a lot to learn.

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[–] yoshisaur@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago

My family has one in most rooms of our house...ugh

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I honestly have no idea why anyone who cares even 1% about their privacy would have ever bought one of these abominations in the first place. If I ever receive one as a gift I will burn it with fire.

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