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Sanders is one of the most popular politicians in the US, and his political analysis and messaging remain as relevant and compelling as ever. But while his Tour to Fight Oligarchy is inspiring and important, the broad left badly needs a political vision that goes beyond Sanders.

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[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 1 points 32 minutes ago

The sit out centrists need to vote

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 hours ago

Bernie is the only leftist in the Senate. So until that changes it will be impossible to move beyond him.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A new party is needed. Be done with the garbage that we currently have

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] liverbe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 48 points 11 hours ago

Centrists need to stop telling leftists what to do and what is good for them or they're going to keep on losing elections.

[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 23 points 13 hours ago

This article is not what we need right now.

[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 51 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie is the left's most effective advocate in the US and we need more of him.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, but also I think a Godzilla sized Bernie Sanders could do a lot of good.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 40 points 15 hours ago

No, the left needs to study Bernie and take notes. Then elect politicians exactly like him.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

this is basically saying, we are currently at -10, Sanders is at +3 and we need to jump to +10 right away. Not gonna happen unless through civil war.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 hours ago

Republicans were at -3 pre 2016 and they've ratcheting up to -10 pretty quickly. If you have a good charismatic leader that the base falls for you can drag the rest of the party along to the edges of the Overton window pretty quickly.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 23 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

there wont be anyone like sanders or aoc,, and all other imitation dems turn out to be shills for the gop.

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

When the party supported him instead of pulling funding, it should have been clear that he was lying about being a progressive.

[–] g0ndii@feddit.org 7 points 18 hours ago

there isn't, but there can be

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 135 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No.

The Left needs to get rid of fucking Schumer.

Let Bernie retire, because the man was there for the signing of the declaration (pretty sure his signature is just below Adams's.)

Let the man retire. Get rido f the Quaislings that seem content to be ineffectual opposition.

Do stuff other than beg the base for money and give people somethign they can be involved in. Start looking at community efforts. Build ties at the base's own level so the base SEES the Democratic party Doing stuff locally that HELPS them.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I believe the left needs to start listening to Sanders. This man is a genuine champion. He, for decades, has been shunned by his colleagues, and yet he has never wavered in continuing to fight for all of us. I wish I had a fraction of the courage this man has.

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[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Sanders is the american Jeremy corbyn and if it looks as though he might get near to power, the establishment will take him out, smear him and try to remove him from politics and the democratic party, just as they did corbyn.

They used the excuse of antisemitism in the labour party, which was total lies, he's the most stalwart anti-racist in UK politics and has been for decades. His record speaks for itself. He's still barred from the labour party now.

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[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Sanders works with democrats while voters paint democrats as evil. If you love Bernie then ask yourself why does he keep such company? Vilifying the dem party ain’t helping and your Bernie recognized that a long time ago. What are you accomplishing ?

Something needs to change either people pull their head out of their ass and cut this shit out, or they get better at shit and stop it. But wtf

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Move left and we'll quit correctly pointing out that your party is shit on purpose.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 6 points 11 hours ago

One of Bernie's biggest flaws is that he's working with the Democrats.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 day ago (5 children)

we can't get more than what sanders wants if we can't even get what sanders wants

[–] redhat421@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Surprisingly, It's sometimes easier to do big things.

For example: Do social security instead of tinkering around the edges of the existing retirement system.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Yep, article is well meaning but dumb.

Idealism is great, but politics requires pragmatism. Which is why people like AOC and Bernie (who are well left of Kamala politically) still told voters to vote for Kamala in the election - she was the only way to avoid Trump, she was the pragmatic choice.

But apparently we'll be discussing why it's a dumb idea to be a protest voter in a very close election for the next four years non-stop.

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[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bernie should be running "here's how to run for office in your area" drives on his oligarchy tour. The only way progressives will kick out corporate democrats is by the common person running more. Bernie should be pushing more people to run instead of just getting up on a stage in front of people and being a politician. He's not a good organizer. Great talker. Horrible at getting people out to vote. Dude couldn't even get enough people out to vote in the Democrat primary in 2016 to defeat Clinton. She beat him by a larger voting margin than Trump won by last year.

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh no, every fuckin person In line to vote with me just said they were voting for Clinton because they were told he couldn't win. Everyone agreed with him yet I couldn't convince the 20 people in line that if we all voted for him it could all work. The dnc did him wrong, the media coverage wasn't great (never is take that as it is), and people thought Clinton was a shoe-in. I dont disagree with your statement for teaching people how to run, but don't disregard how the dnc didn't want him there at all.

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