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The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the "John Oliver rule."

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[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago

Reddit won? Good for them. I'm still not going back.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago

Reddit won at building its own viable competitors like Kbin, Lemmy, and Squabbles and all the users of those platforms also won big from Reddit's hubris. The one thing I know for sure is that they have grown Lemmy by 7000%, and that's nothing to sneeze at.

Time will tell what happens to Reddit.

[–] moobythegoldensock@geddit.social 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit won against its own users, the very people it relies on to stay relevant. In doing so, it showed a large number of users they don’t need reddit.

As the Lemmy apps get better, more and more people will check out the ad-free reddit. We can get their content without needing their platform, which is huge.

Reddit won the battle, but will it win the war?

I have never seen so many fight videos and politics on the front page. Reddit has completely lost its sense of humor and is basically a Facebook feed.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They didn't win, they just didn't fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don't have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit's flaws), and more will depart in time.

[–] Chingzilla@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well put. I think there was permanent damage done to user's trust, but don't see many of the smaller subreddit communities migrating away yet.

I worry that Lemmy is even more an echo chamber with a handful of default communities, I hope it grows to the point where I don't feel obligated to join the popular communities so there is actual content to scroll through.

[–] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They might have won but now that Rif doesn't work anymore I'm testing Lemmy. I've noticed that reddit content is less updated throughough the day so I suppose that some active posters have left.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 13 points 1 year ago

I bet the "Reddit won" statement is a bit premature. Yes in a sense it pushed forward what they wanted to do kicking out third-party apps and moderators who didn't toe the line. In the end, they kept the traffic but it must be mostly the silent majority of lurkers. I bet a significant chunk of the minority providing content and discussion went away or at least is trying out alternatives and finding a new home in the likes of Lemmy.

Time will tell if Reddit stagnates/declines content-wise.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm using Sync for Lemmy (with a lemmy.world account) it's like Sync for Reddit, same!

[–] AntifaNI@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The last major holdouts in the protest against Reddit’s API pricing relented,

Some small subreddits are still protesting and planning on doing so indefinitely. Others have migrated to Lemmy/Raddle/Squabbles/Etc

[–] exapsy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I dont know what you say, I transitioned to Lemmy 100% and deleted my acc at reddit.

The only super annoying thing is that they get to keep the cake whole and the dog full (my comments by deleting my name and my acc deleted). Which I despite them for that even more now and just make me avoid the platform even more and dis-advertise it.

I would be fully happy if I had my account, changed my comments first to "fuck /u/spez" and then had deleted my account, but I only knew so much. I was naive enough to think they would delete my comments too, since they're My Intellectual Property. Right? They came from my own mind, I took the time to write them, and I deleted them! But no! We will keep them, just delete your name.

And when you google my reddit username, you still get from the google's cache directed to threads with my deleted comments. Fuck you spez. Fuck you.

Time will tell if reddit won. It's not a short-term fight. I deleted my discord a Chinese Tencent's vessel and a product that makes no money but burns money for the sake of gathering data. My Instagram, my Meta account thus my FB too, my WhatsApp, every app that was there just to gather my data or exploit me now or in the future.

I do everything to keep off being fingerprinted. I use platforms that use more and more end-to-end encryption like Matrix. Or at worst Telegram which is not end to end but the best of the worst since my relatives still use it.

Just because you don't see it yet, doesn't mean that a movement against anti-consumer platforms like reddit don't exist. I inform my mom about it, I inform my relatives and friends about it. I move friends and friends move me to safer for the future to use platforms and de-centralized.

A battle may be short, but the war is long.

[–] lorkano@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I removed all of my comments first, so they dont have anything. Used app to do this, took few minutes to remove thousands

[–] irinotecan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Reportedly, they were restoring the comments of some deleted accounts for which they detected this.

[–] lorkano@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well if I find it I will report them to gdpr

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you still have access to your account there's a bot service that will edit all of your comments to whatever message you'd like (eg. "Fuck spez" or w.e) and then when you delete them that's what it'll display.

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[–] Hyperi0n@lemmy.film 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Discord isn't owned or majority controlled by tencent at all. That's antivax level paranoia.

[–] exapsy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Tencent owns a majority of the shares. If you want to dispute me, at least throw a source … it’s a well known fact in the business community.

Crunchbase - Discord Principal investors

Crunchbase - Discord Series B Lead investors (Tencent, Benchmark, 9+ Program)

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[–] Xavier@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really‽ I just checked and many of the small subreddits I used to follow became much less interesting/active if not dead.

Meanwhile, some of the bigger subs became a repost dumping ground of years old posts/images/videos/memes by fairly new accounts (i'm guessing those are bots karma farming).

The fediverse is the much better way IMHO.

In any case, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit have become too toxic to use I will keep away (though, I never had a Facebook nor a Twitter account)

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just If you consider the growth of 7000% of a competitor in the era when many players fight for the attention of the users a victory. Time will tell

[–] MrFagtron9000@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's two problems...

  1. There is no easy to use singular Reddit replacement. (The fediverse is not easy to use to normal people.)

  2. Reddit is such a large social media site now that all the nerds getting angry and leaving doesn't matter. 10 years ago this change would have killed Reddit, but now that normal people like my mom are on Reddit they don't give a shit about using the official Reddit app, in fact they were probably already using it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But your mom was probably not part of the 1% of Reddit posting things people cared about. A lot of those people left and, I'm told (I haven't been back to look), the change is noticeable.

[–] MrFagtron9000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here are the subs I used to go to...

  • Askgaybros - Doesn't exist on the fediverse
  • Gaybros - exists but barely gets one post per day
  • Politics - I'm banned because of my username, but plenty of subscribers. Interestingly I can't figure out how to contact a moderator to get unbanned. The information page doesn't list who the moderators are. I had a similarly "offensive" name on Reddit for a decade and never got banned from r/politics
  • askreddit - plenty of subscribers on Lemmy
  • Android - plenty of subscribers on Lemmy
  • Linux - plenty of subscribers on Lemmy
  • Economics - maybe a post or two a day

When I go back to Reddit, on desktop, all of those are operating as they normally do, with no perceptible change on the amount of posts.

[–] Boinketh@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Plot twist: you're just a British smoker.

[–] bestioon@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez's money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can't use a mobile browser to view most content on Reddit anymore due to one of the changes to the site. I get a bunch of prompts to log in or verify my age or something that can only be removed by switching my browser to desktop mode.

This basically ensures that I won't ever use Reddit because I do most of my doom scrolling on mobile when I'm bored.

I think today I'll investigate one of the means of automatically changing all of my comments to fuck spez and then delete my account.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not true. It may be true in r/technology, but reddit hasn't won. It's just that those still on Reddit didn't make it.

We showed that we care, and we showed that we can dump them. Reddit is currently dying. It may be a slow process, but I don't think the enshittification of reddit will stop.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, and while Lemmy was rough around the edges when people started looking for alternatives, now there's a glut of great clients and active communities. Reddit only needs one more screw up before the remaining users find a compelling alternative.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

And the screwup will come. Either in another big blow or gradually.

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[–] zerbey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

They won, but hopefully the hit they took gives them pause. Lemmy won too, it's become a nice little community and I'm happy to be here.

[–] omnius@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Reddit didn't win over me. I edited all my comments to "fuck u/spez", got suspended from a couple subreddits, and then never logged back in to my account. Been using Lemmy ever since.

[–] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The victor is not victorius if the vanquished does not consider themselves so

Never stop fighting, we will win!

[–] cosmicboi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why fight when you can just delete your reddit* account and be done with it? :)

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Assuming that this is not just Reddit paying Gizmodo for an article to discourage people from using Lemmy by shaping the narrative that everyone is back on Reddit, then I would say it's just way too early for Gizmodo to make this call.

Enough people have come over to make a push/pull environment happen between the two sites. Time will tell which one pulls the most over to their side.

[–] fulano@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 year ago

The incredible thing about these articles is that they don't make the slight mention of lemmy.

That one linked is a well written summary of what happened, but it's partial if they don't include the migration that happened, even if it wasn't that big.

[–] ram@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Spez gambled that most mods would give up because they where power whores. He won because he was right.

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

If Reddit won, why are we here?

[–] cazool@blip.cf 3 points 1 year ago

A shadow of its former self but they managed to clear out the troublemakers

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lemmy won imo

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No surprise here, just like Bernie Sanders, Mueller, and everything else, le reddit blindly overestimated what was going to happen. I'm willing to bet less than 10% of reddit even knows there were other apps, they just want cat pics and reposted tiktoks.

[–] shinobizilla@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Partly because the majority of the people didn't even know there were 3rd party apps lol. Many people don't even care about the protests. Reddit is too big for it to go down overnight.

The only thing we could do now is build better communities here.

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