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https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/trump-fentanyl-weapon-of-mass-destruction-executive-order-draft-scoop

Well this is absolutely frightening in so much that Trump is going to force his way into Canada via military operations by claiming fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.

Anyone remember the Bush Administration and WMDs they said were there but never were?

Elbows up Canuck’s. The time to prepare is most likely closer than we think.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 32 minutes ago

Fentanyl is the preferred opiate in hospitals. Cheaper per dose. US used to be able to "influence" Afghanistan to help its drug trade profits. Fentanyl is cheap because it doesn't need controlled plants in addition to potency.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/05/918279481/some-health-workers-suffering-from-addiction-steal-drugs-meant-for-patients

Hard to get an exact number for hospital theft amount of fentanyl, but

3,600 cases of alleged drug theft at healthcare facilities over the last five years, including 280 cases so far in 2020.

111,000 instances here where the folks that were reviewing [drug inventories] could not figure out why the math didn't add up,"

What is almost certain is that US healthcare system is a larger source of illegal fentanyl than Canada. If the absurdity that it is a WMD is taken, there should be military security around hospitals before it's placed at the borders.

The death potential of the vial of Anthrax Colin Powell quoted to UN was based on using an eye dropper to kill individuals one by one. WMDs actually require mass deaths from one event as a definition.

Canada needs to immediately stop military cooperation with US. Kick them out of NORAD unless they pay high rent. Stop threatening US enemies, and accepting them as our own.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago
[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 1 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

Those photos of WMDs? They were balls.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 minutes ago

Hands down one of the best shows ever!!

Trump right now.

Can we just FFW to the end? Pretty please?

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 50 points 9 hours ago

For a guy who said he wasn't gonna go to war, he sure as fuck sounds like a guy getting ready for war.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 51 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Here comes the "special military operation", but it's not a declaration of war so he doesn't need congressional approval.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 hours ago

Actually thanks to the 2001 AUMF he doesn't need Congress as long as it's part of the (still ongoing, never officially ended) "war on terror". Which, presumably, would include stopping WMDs.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

He's so far outside the box predictions don't work anymore. But food for thought; Americans associate drugs with Mexico far more than any other country. So this would be one hell of a head whip for the general public. Americans also still consider Canada one of our closest friends on the global stage. Many families in the North span the border. For that fact alone there's a very good chance that if he attacks Canada we'd shut this country down with protests and strikes.

On a rational predictable level he's already declared cartels to be terrorists and Venezuela to be a terrorist state. This is very likely another tool to pressure the Mexican government.

That said, I wouldn't trust us right now. We're like that friend who took too much cocaine and is hiding in the closet with a gun. Unpredictable and dangerous.

[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 2 points 27 minutes ago

Speaking for myself, someone with family and friends in the US, I don't trust you one bit right now - your current government is an enemy to Canada, period.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 56 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you want peace, prepare for war.

I'm not being facetious and I'm not joking, and I don't think he is either.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Should have acquired nukes. This is the message.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 30 minutes ago

suitcase nukes pretty easy to access for nations that have different friends than US.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world -4 points 3 hours ago

I used to order a powered reascearch chemical dmt into the states legally. There are no laws banning it. But i wont anymore since theres no telling what could happen now. Any white powered could land me into so much trouble.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 hours ago

In the read out from the PCC meeting on Friday, it says the participating agencies “recognize the need for the United States to take strong action to counter this devastating situation, but these bureaus share significant policy concerns with the Executive Order as drafted.”

Those concerns include the fact that the EO “cites a statute that does not entail an authority to ‘designate’ substances as WMD,” concerns about “negative effects on entities that legitimately handle, ship, and deliver opioids for pharmaceutical purposes,” and acknowledges that “fentanyl can be treated as a chemical weapon when it is developed or used as a weapon…which risks muddying clearly defined roles and responsibilities between the counternarcotics, counterproliferation, and arms control communities.”

Trump has blown by just blurring the lines since he was sworn in. He's wiping them out completely.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 26 points 11 hours ago

I agree that this is just so he has reason to continue his attacks, I am guessing it will be aimed at Mexico but Canada needs to be ready.

[–] pelgraine@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s interesting that this 2019 article shows this idea isn’t a new one - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/21/politics/dhs-fentanyl-wmd/index.html

The fact that they were considering back then has me wondering if this apparently leaked draft EO might have actual substance to it, which is disturbing to say the least.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Mexican cartels and elements of the heroin trade have been known to use fentanyl as an additive to increase the potency of other illegal drugs.

He's already invoked the alien enemies act against Venezuelan cartels, effectively declaring war on Venezuela. He's setting up a shooting war in Central America.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No, he did not effectively declare war on Venezuela, which is exactly why his use of the act was immediately blocked by courts. He's trying to use a law designed for times of war without actually being in a war with the people he wants to target.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 27 minutes ago

That war is how he is going to solve the economic crisis resulting from hia isolationist tariffs.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Someone call Hans Blix, we gotta find them WMDs in Canada. Funny if they dont find any.

[–] IslandLife@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, www.thehandbasket.co seems like a reputable, reliable source. /s

[–] Zerberr@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Even if it isn't, possibility is surely here.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 hours ago

First as tragedy, then as farce

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

If this goes forward, we have to pay close atention. This certainly is looking for two goals, short and long term. Short is Canada and Mexico. Long term is China

[–] notsure@fedia.io 1 points 10 hours ago

this will stop it, of course! I declare it done!!!!!!