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[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Lots of people in here talking about how sex scenes suck, and they’re right. But I think we should also consider this: decades of focus on abstinence education and evolving parental and institutional surveillance has been successful at making young people have less sex. And now the olds, having achieved their mission, are confused about why the kids are having less sex and making less babies and the media they are creating and consuming is reflecting that.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

That has nothing to do with less children. It's a known thing in biology that animals are fully aware of critical mass and adjust their mating for the conditions.

Every single industrialized country has reduced birth rates because of child mortality, financial stability, and many other reasons that go with it.

There is no one that didn't have a kid because of a movie. That's just ludicrous.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the reason why is the easy access to pornography.

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[–] DunkelLicht@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Younger people have less sex because they are more educated and much more picky.

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[–] TwistedTurtle@monero.town 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Apparently I'm the only one that likes being titillated by movies. I don't get the "it adds nothing to the plot" complaint. Tons of movies have action scenes and gratuitous violence that add nothing to the plot, yet i don't see complaints about that. 90% of John Wick is gratuitous violence that added nothing to the plot, but I still love it.

I think this says more about American prudishness and people's unhealthy attitudes towards sex than anything.

Bunch of unnecessary death? Cool and fun! An unnecessary titty? Awkward and gratuitous.

Fuck all of you. I want more nudity and sex in my movies and the comparative lack of it compared to the 80s and 90s feels like we're going out of our way to exclude a huge part of life from art because it makes the prudes out there uncomfortable. But those same people are happy to watch nameless dudes get creatively and graphically killed for half a movie's run time.

I want more gratuitous sex and less gratuitous moral pandering

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

After reading the article it looks like they aren’t being prude. They just wanted to see more healthier relationship spectrums. I think that’s a fair call. Not all story points have to be about sex.

Plus representation matters.

There are asexuals. And many other sexuality types in the world. Violence is not making a point on that so I don’t know where you’re going with that.

There is also echoing healthier relationships between men and women. I’ve known far too many people who cry friendzone and watch complete shit like friends and HIMYM and the various sitcoms that echo very dehumanizing, simplistic, unhealthy relationships between men and women where they stubbornly won’t relate to each other and sexuality is used as a tolerance or payoff of each other’s existence.

So whiile we could debate gratuitous violence has an impact, I think bad relationships and how they have been presented as a template has had a different impact they are trying to discuss.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I gave up on movies in like '09. No I do not want to see your 5,000th Marvel movie or remake of an 80s movie, regardless of sex scenes, thanks.

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[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A fucking men is the problem.

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[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m gen y and I agree. Skip the shitty softcore.

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[–] z7h99ctr@leminal.space 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd personally prefer that if they aren't allowed to show it they not bother. All this does is make watching with family uncomfortable or possibly if your aware of the scene beforehand prevent watching it with family at all.

Assuming i'm not trying to watch it with family I prefer my content uncensored, like they can say fuck if they want to or fuck if they want or actually be seen nude after a shower instead being censored in some form.

Even when I am watching things with family i'd prefer they just not did things they'd have to censor than taint it with censorship.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This seems unlikely considering the massive number of popular teen romance shows happening, such as Heartstopper. It's just that any sex scenes need to have actual depth behind them when they happen, not just random sex out of nowhere.

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[–] FringeTheory999@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I’m just sick of hollywood shoehorning a romance into every story. Not every story needs a romance, and most of the romances in movies are cliche and unnecessary.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a standing wager with my friends that there has never been a filmed or written sex scene that needed to be included in the media. Talk about it, allude to it, show the ramifications of it, but there has never been one that needed to be there. Sex scenes are there to sell TnA, not to move the plot forward.

For an example of a close call. In A History of Violence, Viggo rapes his wife. This is about as close as you could come to a needed scene because it shows a wild character development, but if you were to cut the scene out entirely, you'd still get all of the character development that he gets from the scene, anyway, rendering it useless.

I'm trying to imagine Zach and Miri Make A Porno without any sex scenes in it.

[–] red@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't watch nothing without sex scenes

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[–] Lath@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I'm the gen that saw couples having sex butt-naked on the kitchen counter in a random movie at 3-4 in the afternoon. And all i remember now of that movie is that i don't like seeing guys butts.

[–] 31415926535@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Gen x, i think, here. Sex alone does nothing for me. Nudity does nothing. I'm attracted more to people, subtlety, long, slow seductions.

Most sex I see in tv, movies, is ridiculous. Like, 2 people have been flirting for weeks. One day, chance meeting, they kiss. RIGHT THEN, right after the first kiss, they immediately start taking their clothes off.

Seriously, who does that?

Some of the best sex can be if you have your clothes on.

Also, too many fantasy TV shows have characters who can't touch other people cuz demon in them, physically touching someone means they'll lose control, whatever. So they go around miserable, horny, unrequited love and all that. Which to me shows failure of imagination. Sex can be imaginative, creative, so much variety, possibility. Phone sex, mutual self masturbation, why not work those options into the plot?

But no, in movies and TV, its almost always: kiss, clothes come right off, completely naked, always in a bed, orgasm in 5 minutes. Real life is way more complex than that.

[–] wilberfan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A Boomer here, and I'm finding these comments to be very interesting--mostly because I'm realizing I agree in many cases! Far from prudish, just last night I fast-forwarded past the sex scenes in the first episode of a new streamer series. "Yeah, yeah, I get it...you're hot for each other. Can we move it along, please?"

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's just gen z being pragmatic. We don't need sex in movies cuz we have unlimited better porn.

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[–] dumptruckdan@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds good to me and I'm a couple letters behind Gen Z. Either the scenes don't do anything for me, in which case they're boring, or they do something for me, in which case...what do I do when it's over? Do I pause and go take care of it, or sit there all hot and bothered while somebody talks about business stuff or getting the bad guys or whatever? Either way it's annoying. And I'm no prude, it's just, if I want to see sex I'll just watch porn. But I'm not watching porn, I'm trying to watch a story. IDK. It's like if the mall decided every store needed a stripper pole.

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