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[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 125 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Millennial here. I've always found random sex scenes obnoxious. It completely kills the pacing and pulls me out of the story. If you need sex for character development, you can much more easily allude to it and move on. The only time I can think of when it actually made sense for the story was in the movie Her and it was such a mild scene that didn't have any visuals.

[–] 520@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it worked for some early GOT moments too. It showed the monster that Khal Drogo really was, for example

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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 77 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm with Gen Z here. They're absolutely right

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just feels awkward, uncomfortable, and unnecessary most of the time.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 67 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Am a millennial. Sex scenes in movies should follow a simple formula: don’t do sex scenes, or do real sex scenes.

All that softcore, sex under the sheets while wearing a bra nonsense only serves to make watching it with family a bit awkward. Either make it a movie that stands on its own, or make a movie where I can actually watch celebrity people fuck in full explicitness.

Make it porn or not, both is fine, but don’t try to appeal to both sides. That’s just awkward and frustrating to either

[–] buzziebee@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Here's the twist. We show it. We show all of it.

https://youtu.be/Ftoffknbrfc?si=9pfHb5eV4SRbqbwV

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[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 65 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm not Gen Z and I hate the damn sex scenes. There was a minute there where netflix would just add one within 15 mins of every show or movie, even if they never showed another one again. It never added to the plot and seemed like it was just there to reel people in. But, it was obnoxious.

Glad they sort of stopped that, although I still find it happens now and again. Hopefully this puts the nail in the coffin.

Maybe I am a prude. So what!

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue for me isn't the sex, it's that the scene is irrelevant to the plot. If the sex is relevant to the plot I don't mind, but when it's obviously just slotted in to show tits, that's annoying because it breaks immersion for me. It makes me think about the agenda behind adding that scene instead of thinking about the story I'm watching.

Obvious product placement is kind of in the same category for me. Like Will Smith in I, Robot spending 5 minutes of the movie super excited about receiving some "vintage 2004 Converse All Stars". Like, the movie is set in 2035, but you just had to find a way to plug this year's model of some shoes. Sure, those shoes have looked the same since forever, but the 2004 ones were just something else, man!

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[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago

It's awkward seeing scenes like that unfold with other people like friends and family. Implying a scene and fading to black is more than enough. And I think many actors would be happier too not having to act out those scenes.

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[–] LazyBane@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Doesn't help that sex keeps being written into shows where it doesn't belong.

It's trying to make a show "more adult" in literally the most childish way possible.

That Halo show is a good example of completely needless sex scenes.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the sex. It's the cringy romantic bullshit typically surrounding it where everyone treats each other like shit for the sake of drama.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unless you're watching a romance movie there's almost zero point to have a romance plotline.

Pretty tired of the horror movies and action movies that just randomly throw in some love triangle or romance plot to try and make the actual plot more exciting, even though most of the time it makes no sense.

Oh I met you three days ago? MARRY ME HANDSOME!

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Porn is porn, I’ll watch that when I want in private. If I’m watching a movie/tv show, I’m watching it for the content, for the storyline or whatever, adding shitty softcore porn to it just dilutes it and makes it unwatchable around friends/family. One of my gripes with Game of Thrones (not high compared to everything else wrong with it) was all the shitty sex scenes they added, which required them to cut out even more content than before. With only ~10 hours per season, they didn’t have alot of time to dick around, but they spent alot of time… dickin’ around.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago

I think it more likely that they are sick of the idiot love triangle crutch which so many productions desperately wedge into films it has no place in.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it just Gen Z?

Most movie sex scenes are terrible. They fail as both pornography and as literary devices.

When you put a sex scene, or any other scene in a movie it has to serve some purpose. It can move the plot along, it can show the characters emotions or it can just be there for titillation. If it's just there because someone thinks that the main characters are supposed to smash, it's dumb.

I remember that when we rented "Basic Instinct" you knew how often people re-watched the interrogation scene because the old VHS tapes would get worn at that spot and you could see the screen artifacts.

Two things made that worth watching. The whole movie was about sex so it made sense, both in the movie and for the character. The way to get porn at the time was to walk into a store and buy a magazine. And Sharon Stone was hot, OK 3 reasons.

There absolutely are movies where the sex scenes make sense and are important. David Kronenberg's "Crash" and Kimberly Peirce's "Boys Don't Cry", would have been weird if they didn't include the sex scenes or just left them implied.
The sex scene in, "Team America: World Police", worked because it was a satire of sex scenes in movies.
Pornhub works because their scenes are very explicit.

When you have a boring, unironic, semi-artistic sex scene in a movie that's not otherwise about sex, it's just a distraction.

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[–] 2ncs@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Gen Z doesn't like sex scene put into the movie by senile board members, so they must not like sex in movies anymore"

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

I feel that the title of the article is misleading, as the poll in the article shows that Gen Z are turned off by gratuitous sex scenes that are not relevant to the plot, and not Gen Z suddenly turning into evangelical prudes. What they wanted is not the unrealistic, lazy, paint-by-number relationships as commonly depicted to stir controversy to drive engagement(a very cynical approach, I might add), but a full spectrum of different types of relationships good and bad, authentic in their depiction and sincere in their on-screen expression.

Note that the sincerity of expression doesn't mean that the relationship depicted has to be good, or even genuine. For example, the sex scenes in "The Wolf of Wall Street" (you're welcome, by the way) are important because they highlight that between Jordan and Naomi, there is nothing between the two besides money and sex, it's shallow, materialistic, two selfish, toxic people using the other to get what they want, without which they can't stand each other, in stark contrast with the genuine parental love that Naomi felt for her children, and it is the resolution of said contradiction which contributed to Jordan Belfort's downfall.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't mind sex scenes but I'm so over forced, low stakes, softcore sex scenes between characters that have nonexistent chemistry.

I still think it's best when it's artfully implied and brief between characters with chemistry.

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[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not just a Gen Z thing, nobody I've ever talked to likes sex scenes.

[–] flumph@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of them are just dumb. Like a guy finds out his mom just died in a bear attack, so he and his coworker have passionate sex for the first time.

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[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (17 children)

How does Gen Z feel about nudity in films? Either nudity that fits the scene and feels logical or nudity just for fan service?

I'm cool if your just not a fan of shoe horned in and cringey sex scenes, but lots of younger folks come off as weirdly puritanically prudish to me. Why are we so much more comfortable with casual violence than casual nudity? That bothers me.

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[–] PissinSelfNdriveway@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well no shit. Nobody wants to watch sex scenes with their parents, and when rent costs 3 used cars per month they don't have a ton of choice.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually I think they have the same problem with it we Millennials do, and that we don't find it Charming when a guy acts like a total creep and is rewarded for it because the movie was written by total creeps. Or if our lead is a woman, I'm tired of hearing about how successful and fulfilled she is with her brilliant career that no one takes seriously, because she hasn't found the right man yet, but then she does and discovers that all of her problems are solved by his penis. Because those movies are also made by creeps

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[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

First of all. Are there any stories without sex/romance? I personally would love the occasional platonic story. About people who aren't all trying to get in eachothers pants.

I'm not Gen Z (Millenial) but I do get tired of being bombarded with sex, making out, etc. If it's done well and integral to the plot, then it's fine. But honestly less is more. Do I really need a camera to closeup pan the full length of someone's naked body to realize what's going on? After a while it just gets weird, like I am legit waching porn here, am I supposed to be aroused?

The other problem is how flawless they look. I wouldn't mind seeing some real, average looking people for a change. Hold hands or awkwardly kiss after knowing eachother a few months or years, not like "oh hi we just met and it's the two of us alone how convenient hehe guess there's nothing left to do but use our perfect bodies for totally fake sex".

Has anyone ever had sex and thought afterwards, wow that was just like TV/movies/whatever? In my experience it's both more awkward and way hotter. They're not going to script all the little things we enjoy in reality...

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are there any stories without sex/romance?

Dredd 2012. Judge Dredd takes on a female apprentice Anderson for a training day. They mop the floor with gangsters and crooked cops. It's a non-stop action thrill ride.

No romance. No sexual tension. They do their jobs.

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[–] NoSleep@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago

This article tells us nothing as it isn't comparing the results to other age groups. The study it cites might though.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Somehow gen z’s early exposure to porn has made them more prudish than the religious. Literally. I’ve Seen so many posts on Reddit and had real life conversations with gen z people where they’ve said that they hate when couples publicly say their trying for a baby because it means they’re being “creampied” and that’s awkward for them.

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Just make something that isn't the exact same fucking thing I've seen 12 times, fuck

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 26 points 1 year ago

I'm a horny af millennial and I also don't really care for sex scenes. They add nothing to the story itself, and they don't show enough to be sexy. If you're not going to show full penetration then don't even bother.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Generation Xer here... I, too, find the enforced "made-by-numbers" romance and sex cringy, superfluous and utterly banal.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone is saying sex scenes aren't needed. I present my evidence that sex scenes are needed: Office Space

The sex scene shows that Peter is paranoid and deeply uncomfortable with the fact that his girlfriend, Joanna had sex with his boss. A fact that Peter heard as a rumour from a horny co-worker. Lumbergh would never talk about their sex life at work as that would inappropriate as a manager.

The scene also shows how Peter see Lumbergh as a person. It also sets up for the conflict between Peter and Joanna as Peter acts on his nightmare like a child.

Granted the scene is extremely soft core and played for laughs. However, I think the movie would be a little weaker if Peter had gone to to the office the next day and told everyone about the nightmare without showing it. Yes, you could cut out the scene as the party scene sets everything up for the future conflict. The sex scene shows how deeply uncomfortable Peter is with the situation. It's truly a scene that does "Show, Don't Tell".

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[–] DunkelLicht@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It never bothered me as a kid, but now for some reason I get triggered by the way Hollywood portrays romance. Why is everyone such a HUGE slut? It's such a huge turn off. It is actually really hard to find a film that portrays a healthy loving monogamous relationship.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Turns out, the people who have private sex islands have a terrible view on relationships.

It's not even just about the sex scenes. How many loving sitcom couples/families routinely lie to each other?

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[–] RotaryKeyboard@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This is definitely a cultural prudishness emerging. But that's only part of it. There has also been a shift away from artistic filmmaking and toward high-grossing tentpole movies. Because nudity is a taboo in our society, you need an artistic purpose to the nudity (or sex scene) in the film or it won't serve any purpose to the film, and people will notice that it's out of place. If most of the movies you have are cookie-cutter concept movies with little to no artistic expression, you just can't make anything taboo work in them.

Obviously everyone has different taste in movies, but some films that made on-screen sex work really well are Basic Instinct, Blue Velvet, and Eyes Wide Shut. It also adds a lot to really campy movies. Nightmare on Elm Street comes to mind. Species became a cult classic because of its use of nudity and sex. For just plain nudity, It Follows used it well in the briefest of glimpses of the antagonist. It also added a lot to Ex Machina.

Those are just the movies off the top of my head that were made more impactful by sex and nudity.

Oh! Airplane also has a big laugh thanks to a scene of gratuitous nudity. Let's not forget the comedies!

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oppenheimer: A man intertwined with US nuclear policy, both when creating the first nuke, and during the cold war. Political intrigue mixed with science!

Execs: "What if it had a sex scene?"

[–] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Execs (apparently): What if we chose to explore his flaws by showing that he had an extramarital affair?"

Puritans: This biopic should really only show his other flaws. And political intrigue. Sex wouldn't make sense in an R rated film.

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[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I’m gen x and find that this transition started happening earlier. Once online smut was accessible in early 90’s, what little sex shown on the silver screen became less sought after and just became something we had to sit through awkwardly with family.

[–] kaonashi@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

just cut to a train entering a tunnel and fade to black

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, one of the most popular show recently was euphoria

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[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is many filmmakers use romance/relationships/gender/identity as a filler that really doesn’t add to the story. This is compounded when it feels more like pandering to an audience.

[–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just hate the wet noises that accompany it. Same thing with kissing scenes where they have a shotgun mic basically inside their mouths. It drives my sensory issues up a wall.

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[–] npz@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Different times. When I was growing up, a sex scene in a movie might be one of very few opportunities where you got to see a pair of boobs, unless you could get someone to buy you a porno magazine or VHS tape. These days, there are probably millions of options in this area, instantly accessible. And Hollywood-produced nude/sex scenes are all going to be fake and cringy in comparison.

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