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The Michigan Court of Appeals, in an 18-page opinion, declined to interfere with a 1931 law that carries a five-year prison term for simply having brass knuckles, also known as metallic knuckles.

A “ban on the possession of metallic knuckles falls within the historical tradition of prohibiting the concealed carry of metallic knuckles as a dangerous and unusual weapon,” Judge Christopher Murray wrote in a 3-0 opinion Tuesday.

Brass knuckles are usually a single set of rings that fits on someone’s hand. A punch can inflict serious injuries.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

They're going to be surprised if it gets to the Supreme Court:

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/577/411/

“the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”

Woman bought a stun gun to protect herself from an abusive ex. State of MA charged her saying that stun guns didn't exist back in the day, and were "dangerous and unusual" so the 2nd amendment doesn't apply.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Another weird af hypocrisy where MA didn't want stun guns to count but assult rifles were A-OK.

It truly is a wonder how America has lasted this long.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

America lasted this long simply from momentum and good courtesy after WW2. That's literally it.

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

We had a run. Considering how much of our founding was based on and sustained by slavery, it might be good to call it.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Assault rifles have been illegal nation wide for decades

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Assault rifles were only banned for 10 years, from 1994 to 2004.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Assault rifle != Assault weapon. An assault rifle is a fully automatic or burst fire weapon. They've been illegal since 1986 and remain so to this day. And assault weapon is a made up term, based on superficial accessories like bayonet mounts or a pistol grips. Clintons AWB was essentially a "scary looking gun ban". Guns that were functionally identical to banned guns were still readily available and perfectly legal.

Clinton conflated "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" intentionally to cause this sort of confusion and get credit for passing a bad bill that didn't really address the problem.

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[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you can buy an AR-15 in any gun store. they even make a "JR-15," for kids. no, I'm not kidding.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

AR-15 isn't an assault rifle. The A stands for Armalite. The assault rifle version of the AR-15 is called the M16 and it's illegal.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

By the logic of Massachusetts, you only have a right to a muzzle loader and a sword then. What would they say if I were walking around in Boston with a katana or a British officer's sabre?

[–] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And Cannon. Don't forget cannon.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Cannons might not be covered because they are not bearable by a human. I don't know.

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Those existed at the time. You're also free to choose from axes, clubs and blades to giant semi-automatic crossbows. Sorry, sorry no giant crossbows, that tech was lost by then.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

Sap gloves are easy to make and not obvious. A pair of gloves with powdered lead sewn into little pouches over the knuckles and along the knife edge of the hand. A slap or punch will quickly put someone on the floor. Lots of cops wear them. You can get them online.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Metallic only? So you could make one from alternative material, like composites?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

composites tend to not react well to impacts. The reason brass is used, also, is because it's heavy and adds significantly more force.

I would suggest making a cestus, you can also buy "weighted gloves"... which a lot of cops just love, which are gloves with pockets over the knuckles weighted with lead.

The advantage to the cestus is you could say it was for historical reenactment, and you're just LARPing or something.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of course bear arms don’t fit. They’re for fingers, and human ones at that though perhaps a cub could surprise a few.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I don't know about you, but my trained attack bears have custom machined brass knuckles. only the best for my trained bears.

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