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The Michigan Court of Appeals, in an 18-page opinion, declined to interfere with a 1931 law that carries a five-year prison term for simply having brass knuckles, also known as metallic knuckles.

A “ban on the possession of metallic knuckles falls within the historical tradition of prohibiting the concealed carry of metallic knuckles as a dangerous and unusual weapon,” Judge Christopher Murray wrote in a 3-0 opinion Tuesday.

Brass knuckles are usually a single set of rings that fits on someone’s hand. A punch can inflict serious injuries.

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 165 points 1 day ago (14 children)

America is weird af. Ban brass knuckles but allow semi-automatic weapons that kill thousands every year.

Weird. As. Fuck.

[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Yep, they sell them as belt buckles. I got one at a gun show because it was cheap, figured why not. I eventually looked up the legality and I would be better off legally if I carried a pistol. Actually crazy lol.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Reggie Kray on the other side of the sea about self defense:

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You do realize america is almost entirely built on weapons manufacturing right?

[–] lumony@lemmings.world 18 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I just did some looking into this.

Apparently defense contractors get paid twice.

  1. They get paid by taxpayers when they get the contract.
  2. They get paid by foreign nations when the equipment is sold.

It's so fucked beyond belief, I hope this generation can do something about it.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Theres a long long history of people using crises for personal gain, but I do share your hope that we can break the wheel to a degree.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People will still sell them labeled as key-chains or paperweights.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

They have been doing this for years. They add a little bump and sell it as a belt buckle, or add a little notch and sell it as a bottle opener. Most insane is it is fine to put a knife blade on it and sell it as a knife.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 14 hours ago

I've got an antique real pair that belonged to my grandpa. They don't make em like this anymore.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

This guy capitals.

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world -5 points 9 hours ago

North America? South America? Michigan is only a state in part of North America. Just want to be clear.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

Afaik it's because there's absolutely no other applications for brass knuckles to work. You can only assault people with brass knuckles.

Fire-arms can be used for "defence" and "hunting".

Edit: inb4 I don't agree with laws around brass knuckles, or most laws about most weapons.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 13 points 7 hours ago

My dude, you never been hunting until you punch the lights out of a deer.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's bullshit and you know it

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes... Gun laws in the US are bullshit.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If someone attacks you first, and you slip on the brass knuckles before defending yourself, then surely that would be a defensive use?

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 0 points 8 hours ago

Yeah this is that kind of rules-lawyering grey area that everybody's too busy to deal with. It's the same issue with the assault rifles and large mags.. they're very clearly weapons of war but they look like guns and all* guns can be used for hunting.

[–] mira13@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

A brass knuckle can also be used for defence.

If you CAN use a firearm for defence, you're not properly storing your firearm...

You don't need large magazines or semi-automatic weapons for hunting...

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

All the mouth breather Americans are down voting you for simply speaking the truth

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

If you CAN use a firearm for defence, you're not properly storing your firearm...

Can you explain what you mean by this?

[–] Beastlygr@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I think what they are trying to say that if you can quickly grab your loaded firearm and be ready for defense, then you are not storing your firearms correctly. Firearms should be locked up and ammo kept separate.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 4 hours ago

That's insane. Sure when it's being STORED it won't be accessible quickly. But when it's being carried, that's just absurd.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

He's tryna be a macho man who lives life on the edge and drives a Hummer. Give their kind a down vote and scroll on friend :)

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 4 hours ago
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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The solution is clearly to start carrying brass knuckle guns.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 38 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Easiest way to shoot yourself in the face haha

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

angle might be more in the balls. not sure.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Michigan also forbids pepper spray and stun guns. They interpret the right to bear arms as the right to make gun manufacturers rich. By the way, a pistol also fits in one hand and can be used to inflict serious injury. Pistols also get used to ambush people. Ever heard of armed robbery?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

They're going to be surprised if it gets to the Supreme Court:

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/577/411/

“the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”

Woman bought a stun gun to protect herself from an abusive ex. State of MA charged her saying that stun guns didn't exist back in the day, and were "dangerous and unusual" so the 2nd amendment doesn't apply.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Another weird af hypocrisy where MA didn't want stun guns to count but assult rifles were A-OK.

It truly is a wonder how America has lasted this long.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

America lasted this long simply from momentum and good courtesy after WW2. That's literally it.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

Sap gloves are easy to make and not obvious. A pair of gloves with powdered lead sewn into little pouches over the knuckles and along the knife edge of the hand. A slap or punch will quickly put someone on the floor. Lots of cops wear them. You can get them online.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Metallic only? So you could make one from alternative material, like composites?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

composites tend to not react well to impacts. The reason brass is used, also, is because it's heavy and adds significantly more force.

I would suggest making a cestus, you can also buy "weighted gloves"... which a lot of cops just love, which are gloves with pockets over the knuckles weighted with lead.

The advantage to the cestus is you could say it was for historical reenactment, and you're just LARPing or something.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course bear arms don’t fit. They’re for fingers, and human ones at that though perhaps a cub could surprise a few.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

I mean, I don't know about you, but my trained attack bears have custom machined brass knuckles. only the best for my trained bears.

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