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[–] Punished_Allegri@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago
[–] 20cmdepersonalidade@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I sincerely can't imagine why would anyone make the case for Kane to be even in the top 10 right now. Bellingham is in great form (probably the best form in the world right now), but the season has just started and we should see how it develops for him. As a Brazilian, these debates are particularly annoying. Neymar and Vini both had stretches in which they performed as well or better than Bellingham is doing right now in the last few seasons and they never got this level of insane hype this quickly, with Vini failing to get even to the shortlist of 12 players of the best last year (while Declan Rice did). The way in which English-speaking media shapes the debates and perceptions is insane.

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[–] panserstrek@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After decades of English fans and media overhyping our playing… are we finally in a position where we can actually rightfully call ourselves the favourites heading into the euros?

[–] BruntyMozza@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No because two players don't make a squad. France is still stronger overall.

England maybe 2nd or 3rd favourites on paper.

[–] ungalabugala2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This is why you won’t win and why Mbappe is the best in the world. (apart from Messi who people have forgot about, but who hasn’t stopped performing since winning the world cup and putting up motm performances in every single game) Kane won’t show up for England just like he hasn’t apart from scoring a few penalties and none of your players are capable of doing what Mbappe does. Bellingham is your biggest hope seeing he isn’t not afraid of the big stage.

[–] smellmywind@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Not with Southgate.

[–] AggiPo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] confusedpellican643@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ngl ive been in love with maddison since he joined leicester where he instantly became the top scorer for the beginning of the season and I still haven't seen him ´struggle' even with spurs where he's doing even better, I can't wait to see him play against european giants to see what it takes to recognise him as a legit world class player

[–] Spiritual_Hat_7229@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't anywhere near. Correct

[–] Imbasauce@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] BruntyMozza@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right now as in so far this season? Probably.

[–] firefalcon01@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t disrespect guirassy like that

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[–] CommissionOk4384@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kanes numbers are great but idk see how he has been the best striker this season. Even in Budensliga Guirassy and Tel have been more impressive. Saying he is the best nine when he isnt even the best scorer in the league and half of his goals have been scored in 7-0 and 8-0 games is a bit much

[–] Comfortable-Ad1937@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People don’t care about context, they don’t realize not every goal is weighted the same and scoring the 4th goal vs some minnow is meaningless statpadding.

[–] frivolousfred44@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Must not have seen Maguires win rate.

People base their opinions of a Football player on which team they play for

[–] erldn123@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Kane is for sure the best 9, Bellingham best CM but can't say they are best 2, Mbappe and others still exist, always debatable

[–] urdnotwrecks@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The only thing Mbappe can do that Kane can't is be very quick. Meanwhile, Kane can do all sorts of things Mbappe can't. He's the best player in the world, and it's just a shame he's only now getting the respect.

[–] mynameismulan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying Haaland is better than Kane but I think it's a disservice to say that Kane is better than Haaland "for sure".

[–] AxFairy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Give most teams the option to loan one of them until the end of the season and I imagine most go Kane. Though I do agree it isn't a clear choice.

[–] Ok-Pie4219@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wirtz is in running if we take this season as a whole for best CM imo.

[–] Comfortable-Ad1937@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People think Bellingham is a CM when in reality he is false 9/striker for Madrid atm

This season they are both better than Mbappe and last season, Haaland was better than him too

[–] Charlie_Wax@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They are only the best players in the world if Mbappe is on another planet.

[–] FurrySire@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Easily. Kane was also the best last season, but too much emphasis of Messi's world cup & Haaland's Treble/golden boot. In terms of ability alone, Kane was ahead of them both, only ignored because he was at Spurs, who didn't win a trophy.

[–] d4videnk0@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Likely yes, Haaland is a menace but a known quantity and we only see what Mbappe is capable of doing around 5 times per season.

No need for more to know that he is much better.

[–] AlternativeTea9268@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There is a 0 percent chance this article is written is Kane is still at Spurs

[–] stragen595@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't know about that. Spurs are performing very well.

[–] Alia_Gr@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

alright, and how many Spurs players do you see in best player in the world conversation?

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[–] Such-Plantain1407@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah kane is propped up by his surrounding talent in a league with no parity.

[–] fmb320@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah he hasn't got any better he's just gone to a team that is much more dominant in the league it's in

[–] tobi1k@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/how-conte-turned-kante-into-best-player-in-the-world/blt634074b9d0fc744c

I think the main factor is he's putting up better numbers than Haaland and Mbappe rather than there being a Spurs conspiracy.

[–] Salvador1010@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Most in form maybe but best in the world overall nah

[–] Viktor1Sierra@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This is what Spurs fans knew and why the club were so adamant about the fee.

[–] esports_consultant@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

all i know is that its fooking comin' 'ome

[–] NoSmartOpinion@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This obsession with always talking about which players are the best in the world on a weekly basis is really boring

[–] Bifito@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are english people so fucking powerful? I kneel, you guys are so good! My god!!!

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[–] Arseluvr@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Bubbly-Attempt-1313@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No, there is Norwegian and a Frenchman which are already in the line to be crowned. Mbappe needs a new team if he wants to be the best though. It’s nice to see that there are 4 players now, not like in the past when the media kept us busy with only two.

[–] FUThead2016@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Euros Quarter Final elimination on penalties confirmed!

[–] onrizil@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Nketiah too

[–] Prestigious-Dress-92@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poundits about Lewandowski when scoring 40-50+ goals per season for 8 years straight incl. 3 straight seasons of more goals than games: "he needs to leave the Bundesliga if he wants to get respect as the best #9 in the world, also a record breaking 41 goals in 29 games is good and all but Messi won Copa America before playing awful the rest of the year for PSG so he deserve the ballon d'or"

Pundits about Kane after 3 months at Bayern: "OMG Is he the best player in the world right now ?!?!?1oneone"

[–] Kimoa_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lewandowski has the wrong nationality

[–] K0WAHBUNGA@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Well the top 11 are whoever Klopp decides is playing for Liverpool that day. So at best they are 12th and 13th.

[–] ironmetal84@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] EMJG30@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

it’s Mbappè no matter how much some may say otherwise.

no one else in Europe right now has the combination of goal scoring, creativity, flair, technique, explosiveness and aura like he does at a top level. some may be technically better like Vini, some may more creative than him like a KDB and may be better goal scorers than him like a Haaland but they don’t have it all like he does.

[–] ForzaJuventusFC@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think either are most people's first pick in either position. You go with Haaland for a 9 and Messi, Mbappe for that 9.5

[–] Creepy-Suspect-5552@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Now days everybody wanna talk, like they got summin to say, but nothin comes out when they move they lips; just a bunch of gibberish, these m’fckers act like they forgot about MO SALAH

[–] Hup-hamst@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Bellingham - maybe

Kane - no

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