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The government already lost a case against Threema when they tried to force them to spy on their users. This is a Verordnung which is not a law but has to adhere to existing laws. So it might be challenged once more.
If this goes trough though than it has always been legal and it is just the executive making it an actual thing now.
Awesome. So much for "Swiss privacy" huh? Where the hell do I move from Proton? 😮💨
I switched to tutanota for email and mullvad for VPN as soon as they came out as pro-trump.
Tutonota is German, which is part of the already full on surveilance state.
A fair point, but it's better than proton or especially gmail and other traditional email providers. Do you have a better alternative to suggest?
I'll review again. Last time I looked was 3 to 4 years ago.
I'm sticking with Proton for now. If Switzerland ends up being no different than the 5 eyes, I'll be more intent on finding a replacement.
I self host most of my digital life but I will never host my own email or PW manager for the simple reason that if I screw up either than I could lock myself out of my ENTIRE digital life.
Also, since email is only as private/secure as the weakest user in the conversation, it seems to me like I would get a very minimal privacy gain from doing so, not worth the risk for normal everyday usage IMHO.
If I really need to communicate securely with someone there's better options out there than email anyways.
@this Email is especially tricky because most large email providers will flag residential mail servers, and hosting on a provider is a separate issue of security and control
Can we just be realistic and understand that most people can't/won't do this. Most people do not have the time/technical knowhow to host everything themselves.
Edit: came back to this and wanted to clarify. It would be great if people could self host literally everything but I don't get any crucial information through emails or really ever besides in person. I am more than willing to pay a reasonable amount to support privacy features but I'm not personally willing to spend 10x that amount in time to do something that will probably not work because I am not an IT person. I do not have to time to learn how to self host 26 different pieces of software that I have been told I need to self host nor do I have the spare computer parts lying around to build a machine to host them. I have looked at self hosting a matrix client because that is the one type of app that I get anything I want to keep private sent to me but my family is already using signal so I'm unconvinced that switching is worth while.
I should have made paragraphs but I forgot to my bad.
I totally agree with your approach to choices. I don't have the time nor insight into politics to make educated decisions so I just flip a coin every fourth year and is done with it. Yet people berate me for my ignorance?!
Swiss privacy and neutrality died the day they refused asylum to Snowden. The EU is just US's little pet, so is Switzerland even though they aren't part of the EU...
on the same page ☞ France rejects controversial encryption backdoor provision
I do agree that some EU members try to get out of the hands of the US based monopoly/dictatorship, but just proposing to implement such a law is insane and proves how well the US roots are implemented in the EU.
While this is a small win, they will just circumvent and find some kind of loophole. It's not that they don't want to implement such a law, it's only because they know they won't be the only one abusing that system, because it's to simplistic and anyone with good connections and money can just get the keys for the backdoor.
IMO it's just a question of time before they propose a more stupid and insane law only the GOV can use. This is not a real win, more a wait and see situation...
On a final note, It's great the EU trying to get away from US based software (eg Linux, Office...) 😊
There was never swiss privacy - "crypto ag" and Fichenaffäre for the starters
Ugh. This fight is never ending. I feel like after a while you just get totally burned out of fighting and have to pass it on to others.
That's what they count on. They only have to get it through once. We have to fight and win every time, as the UK recently found out. Vigilance has to be key, no matter how hard they make it. But I concede it's tiring as all hell.
This has been going on since the early 1990s. Just keep up the fight.
That's what raising a family is about. No matter what you do the world will eventually burn you out, so it's good to have people to take over whatever it is you've built.
"This categorisation would aim to include any online service with a turnover of $100 million or more than 5,000 active users.
Meaning, it's not about criminals but for spying on common people.
That even includes lemmy with 50k MAU.
Everyone is a criminal
That will immediately get a referendum and get smashed down.
Nothing to worry about.
The article seems to say that it's not a bill that goes through Parliament, more that it's akin to secondary legislation, which can't be subject to a petition? Meaning that the Swiss people would need to petition for a constitutional amendment rather than an optional referendum, which makes this slightly more complicated (and requires a lot more effort)
How do they plan to "ban" encryption? What are they going to do if I get a VPN and download the Signal APK?
Capturing DNS and show of force is normally how they do it. Obviously won't stop those with the technical know how, but will stop 99% of people.
To be fair, I’m pretty sure my country (Jordan) has the wireguard protocol banned ☹️
I see. You need either IPSEC/OVPN or need to encapsulate wireguard in an SSL tunnel. It's a little involved but possible to do