It's fun for me as a supporter of a rival team, but it's bad for football to have one of the biggest clubs in the world suffer such a decline.
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Tbh they have been like this for a decade. Can't see it changing anytime soon.
SAF went on vacation, prizes never came back.
The Alex Ferguson era is over.
They are a "has been" team"
Alex Ferguson fooled everyone into believing Man United were a big club
Terrible owners that bought the club on debt, only see the club as asset like any other, don't understand football, and only want guaranteed TV money from a SuperLeague
As woeful as many of them have been, I don't agree that the players they've been signing from other teams are "rejects" at all.
Manchester United have consistently spent big to bring in their first choice transfer targets in recent years. Rarely have their signings been fringe players at their previous clubs. But United have had a remarkable knack for paying hefty fees for players who then can't make the step up, or worse still, actually end up becoming worse than when they arrived.
Chronic mismanagement from top to bottom. The club is without a plan, without any ideas and the owners are happy so long as it turns a profit.
The Glazers happened. Overnight, United went from being debt-free to being hundreds of millions in debt and “owners” who didn’t care about making United the best they could be. They only cared about making money and knew that they didn’t have to win titles for that to happen. They brought in ex-bankers to run the club which tells you all you need to know. United won’t challenge for major honours while those parasites are still at the club.
The corruption and money of City and Pep happened. Everyone else is a victim.
All that means is that the opposition got better. Can't blame that on united turning into a clown college.
People crap on City for being an “oil-money club”, but they ignore that it has a very solid sports department that recruits the players that are suitable for Pep’s style. Guardiola is a superb manager, many of the team’s players evolved into world-class athletes at the top of their game. City has invested in training facilities, youth development, sports science experts and everything needed to succeed. United is the exact opposite. They’ve spent a billion pounds in pure rubbish, have hired abysmal managers (Mou miraculously won 3 trophies with the mediocre players that he had) and their ownership is satisfied with the club’s influx of constant revenue without investing in anything. Cristiano and Zlatan said that United’s facilities are archaic and it seemed as time froze at Old Trafford.
Don't know but I'm enjoying it.
Parasite owners with no passion for the game, just taking money out and investing nothing. How any organisation, even beyond football, can continue to operate while in that much debt is beyond me. I'm a Liverpool fan but have a lot of sympathy with the fans of united. Must be awful to see your club rotting from the top down and be powerless to force a change.
No real collective goal at the club.
Need a proper football director and coherent scouting system. Have a focus/identity and buy players to fit it, don't buy Casemiro because you panic last minute.
They lost one of the best managers ever and play in a league that has more than 2 good teams now.
Idk why they worship ETH that much, previous man utd managers got crucified for less horrendous results. Yes, the glazers are terrible owners, but it's time the manager gets some of the blame as well.
Caught a terrible virus, which puts the club into massive debt and makes it impossible to be an elite club. The virus is known as “The Glazers” seems to be incurable unfortunately.
SAF giveth and SAF taketh away. Gave years of success but also played a major role in getting Glazers on as investors/owners. Kept his grip on everything until he retired, no sharing of responsibilities and no hierarchy. After retirement everything went to shit because there was no system in place.
The Glazers happened to MU, American football is a different sport, proven by Ted Lasso
Sir Alex Ferguson WAS Manchester United. An excellent manager who worked the transfer market brilliantly to keep his team at the top. Now those two skills have to broken up since no one else can do that and ManU really have not found an adequate replacement in either regard.
They don't build or manage anything on the sporting side,no ideas,no structure or culture. They scapegoat top earning players and managers. Part of me thinks it's karma for mistreating and ruining those careers
Overstayed their welcome at the top😆
The manager cycle and glazers Ever since SAF retired we haven't been the same because another manager comes in has a good first season and then everyone has big expectations for the next then they don't live up to standards and get sacked it will just continue until we give a manager time
The glazers please do it need to explain this giggs scouted mbappe glazers said no ole offered haaland glazers said no we wanted Bellingham for 18 mil glazers said too much for a player so young wanted kroos mane the board maid those fall through
well... SAF was given time first of all (dont get me wrong he had bad seasons), people werent so quick to "get him out", SAF could convince people to join his side because IT WAS A STABLE ENVIRONMENT.
If any good player watches the news or anything sports related they would know to stay the fuck out of united. Id say the only players who actually would join united are players from eredivisie or lower who would be overpaid and cant adapt to PL since its miles ahead eredivisie. That or maybe some fresh star who is a united fan or thinks that he could become the next club icon.
They have lost their power in the FA that would turn a draw to a win or turn a lost to a draw. Now it’s Man City who enjoys the preferential benefits of all rulings. Just look at the penalty given yesterday, it would never be a penalty for other team. But M Oliver , the referee who made money in Man City owners’ country, gave it through VAR!
The Glazers have been a can er to the club. SAF masked their inefficiencies, but once he left, it was all laid bare.
the entire club is rotten from inside it's just so many problems i don't even wanna talk about
Current management is riding the tide of past performances - which will eventually ran out. Nobody outside of the UK will want to purchase merch with a club that barely finishes in the top half of the table. When numbers start to severely go down, that's when they'll start wondering what they're doing wrong.
Fergie and Gill left, Glazers stayed.
Glazers happened. Only revenue matters, and hell if they are not good at that. But the project? Non-existent. They reinvest just enough to male the fans shut up every market window with some bug signing with absolutely no leg whatsoever, just enough to sell shirts.
ETH and hes agents that is what happened…
Fuck knows but it’s wonderful
Something beautiful
Ronaldo warned them what would happen, they didn't listen
As a Utd fan, I'm getting real sick of the excuses I hear for why we're doing so poorly. It's the Glazers, it's the injuries, it's the manager, it's this player, it's the tactics etc.
Truth is, no one knows what it is exactly. We can speculate and we can form opinions but no one really knows for sure. Something is going wrong at Utd and has done for years, but until that's properly addressed it's going to be the same shitshow over and over.
Poor leadership and greedy players (either with their salaries or with the ball)
Don't know, don't care, never been happier.
The clubs owners failed to recognise that SAF took 3 years to win anything when he first arrived at Man U and another 3 years after that before they won the league and started winning thing regularly.
I know modern football demands instant success but if you want a manager who is going to build a long term legacy you have to be prepared to back them through thick and thin long term. Changing managers every 2-3 years will only ever bring fleeting success. SAF turned Man U into the dominant force in English Football because he was there long enough to bring through squad of home grown players who had grown up learning to play his style of football. Most of the home grown players in Man Us first team today have had their football development re-directed about 5 times before they made their first team debut.
Couple this with a lack of investment in training facilities and they really have no hope to ever compete consistently. At best they might have the occasional good season where they spend enough to win something once every 5 years or so.
I think that they are doing better than CFC atm
They need time to rebuild. Genuine three/four years of getting in young top talent. Permission from the supporter base to suck to build for a bit without pressure.
Woodward and his incredibly poor footballing decisions. Such a waste of money. His tenure was an absolute disaster. Really fucked the club. All this happening with nothing in the infrastructure Changing in the background. There was no forward thinking and other clubs were moving on.
Then the final cherry on top was wasting 3 years with Ole. He was hopelessly out of his depth. That was Woodwards final big Fuck up, to complete his full sabotage. We've never really recovered...