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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[–] ookees@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Nothing. I deleted my account already. It was a spit in the face of the third party developers. The official Reddit app is trash. They were lucky to have those third party apps. Cash grab because of the incoming recession. Meanwhile you're whole platform is based on user generated content. What a joke.

[–] honk@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

There is one thing they could do: Just federate with lemmy. :D:D:D

[–] Klinkertinlegs@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reverse the api changes, convince Selig to keep Apollo going, fire spez. Than MAYBE.

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[–] ultraHQ@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if anything could at this point. The large amount of users has resulted in a lot lower quality of posts.

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[–] BlackCoffee@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I won't be back honestly.

The fact that they are "willing" to go this route is the writing on the wall.

I also find it so interesting that people and reddit themselves see the platform as "Social Media" and development is has been going that way.

I see it as a link aggregator and forum and treat it as such. I just want to find information, comment about it and have it as dense and "clean" on my screen as possible. but The fact that it looks like another Facebook and instagram clone and it is gonna be the only way to experience it is a hell no from me.

Apollo to continue going. That’s it.

[–] Brisktheaardwolf@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I would say give the third party apps a chance but after that AMA I can see the creators never really cared. Maybe new management but it would be highly unlikely. When I get treated like crap there is no reason to stick around that negativity!

[–] circuitsunfish@plesiosaur.net 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] OverfedRaccoon@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly, if the key smaller communities that I'm in on Reddit don't migrate away to another platform, then I don't know that I'll even fully leave. Assuming the site doesn't completely implode at this point, of course. For as many subs as I subscribe to, I really only find myself on a handful each day.

That said, spez has really soured my taste for Reddit with the AMA. I only really use old.reddit on desktop, but I've used mainly third-party apps over the years, like most people, I would assume. Even if they lowered API costs to be more reasonable AND third-party app devs decided to come back, they're still limiting NSFW access to third-party app API calls anyway, so a lesser experience either way.

At the end of the day, I'm going to be where the community is, be that here, kbin, or whichever one rises up and has staying power and growth over the next couple years.

[–] headie_sage@fanaticus.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with most of the other posters, I'm done with reddit. I want the community but I don't want the corporation. It's not that I find admins who run lemmy instances more trustworthy by default, but the decentralized nature make me think it can be more resilient and altogether a better experience.

Boy do I wish we had RIF for lemmy though 😞

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[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I've been wanting to find a new forum for a while. Reddit no longer resembles what I joined back in the days.

This was just the kick in booty I needed to get on with it. And a ton of alternatives has been laid out before me, so might as well go check some of them out.

Edit: So there's very little chance of me returning.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Work with multiple 3rd party app devs right now to ensure a future for their respective apps.

[–] Starfish@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

open the source code and become part of the fediverse. reddit is stuck in the past

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

It's too late, this is just the culmination of something that started a long time ago.

[–] Ilikemoney@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, I haven't left yet but I will significantly reduce my time on reddit once my app of choice shuts down (Boost). If reddit updates their app to the standard of the 3rd party apps they are killing, I'll be happy to continue my use. Side note, I've found lemmy (jerboa app use) because of this and will hang around here regardless of what happens with reddit

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[–] Mars7x@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Even if they revert the API changes, I know It's only going to get worse when the IPO happens, so I don't think I could ever come back. I also like the federated approach more anyways 🤷

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[–] silicon_reverie@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll go back if Reddit:

  • Makes it feasible for 3rd party apps to continue on the platform. This could be a revenue-sharing agreement, a set price that's not prohibitively expensive but still fairly compensates Reddit, a flat-out exemption from the Enterprising Pricing, doesn't matter. These apps have been around far longer than Reddit's own app, and provide tools (and general polish) the Official App has yet to match seven years in. They deserve to stay and to make a living for their continued contribution to the community.
  • Restores parity access to NSFW content via the API. It's essential for moderation bots to combat spam, it helps 3rd party apps stay afloat, and it serves a large part of the community. I get that Reddit wants to sanitize the site in preparation for an IPO. I get that advertisers are wary of NSFW posts. That's not an excuse for removing it from the API. The official ad-supported Reddit app will continue to serve up porn, and the currently proposed API prevents 3rd party clients from using ads anyway. Reddit is making a bad-faith argument that harms moderation bots' ability to do their job, and cripples any 3rd party app that isn't driven from the platform based on price (including 2 "accessibility only" apps they were forced to allow during the AMA).
  • Apologizes to the Apollo dev for Spez's libelous statements, and starts a good-faith negotiation with developers to open access for things like the enhanced query system that the 1st party app enjoys, usage statistics that will help devs improve API request efficiency, and revenue sharing where devs can monetize using ads or any other method they choose so long as Reddit gets a cut.

But even if I go back, it will be with one foot out the door. The dam has broken, and I plan to campaign hard for alternatives and switch to whichever one hits critical mass first.

[–] whofearsthenight@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I agree with this but I'll add in one more - it would have to come with spez resigning/being fired. Killing the apps was always the goal, and there is no way I would trust literally anything that is coming from reddit with him at the head. I don't think it's even a little hyperbolic to say flatly that he is a liar. Even if they reversed course 100%, I don't see how it fixes anything because I don't see how Christian or any of the other makers of those third party apps decide to continue working with this company.

And even then I don't think I'd trust reddit to do the right thing at all. Every change made to reddit basically since 2010 or later has either been bad, or their hands have been forced to do the obvious right thing by negative press. They've not proactively done basically anything positive for users in a decade, and this is more or less the story of what I'd call social media 1.0 (twitter, facebook, reddit, youtube, etc.) Especially with my experience moving from Twitter to Mastodon, I'm far more likely regardless of what reddit does to replace it with a federated option because the end goal of publicly traded social media companies just do not align with my values, and even more practically, do not align with an experience I want to have.

[–] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mostly left when they killed the compact UI. Only using it on my laptop from time to time.

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[–] growlysquid@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll always have some positive feelings for Reddit because I met my husband there, but the whole mentality here is so refreshing. I realize I mainly lurked on Reddit cause you'd get torn apart on subs for being new or not knowing the lingo or making a mistake cause you didn't frequent it every day. Don't think I'm gonna back pedal from the fresh start.

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